please talk me down...LOL thinking about the "C" world
#48
#49
you guys are not good therapist...LOL...I'm no longer a Ford owner...went to the other side...and bought:
2017 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 3500 DRW long bed with the Aisin transmission. Factory tow prep and lots of other goodies.... so far I really really like it. Can't wait to tow.
Thanks for everything...this has been a great site and I will keep in touch
2017 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 3500 DRW long bed with the Aisin transmission. Factory tow prep and lots of other goodies.... so far I really really like it. Can't wait to tow.
Thanks for everything...this has been a great site and I will keep in touch
#50
Update:
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
#51
Update:
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
#52
As an owner of 2nd 3rd and 4th gen dodges i would like to weigh in
2nd gens live up to the dodge rep of falling apart around the motor, dash doors etc all have annoying bits and pieces that break fall off stop working etc. we put up with them because of the cummins
I put 112k in 6 yrs on my 3rd gen dually and 104k in 5 yrs on my 4th gen 2500
Both were great trucks and huge improvent over the previous generation. Never had an issue out of either(clutches in 2007, too much power) i did not cause except the right rear wheel seal on the 2012.
Before the cummins trucks i had 3 7.3's one 97, one 02' and one 03'. I started looking elsewhere because i grew tired of my 2006 v-10, i wasnt going near the 6.0 so i found dodge and went that route for awhile. The 17' super dutys sucked me back in to ford and i am happy with the truck.
Wht i am saying is ford dodge and chevy all make top notch trucks that are on the same level as one another.
The cummins comes alive if the emissions parts fall off, just the same as the powerstroke.
The filters and oil changes on my 99,07 and 12 came out much cheaper than any other diesel. I know the 13'-up are more expensive fuel filters and oil filter more difficult to get to, not really familiar with them.
2nd gens live up to the dodge rep of falling apart around the motor, dash doors etc all have annoying bits and pieces that break fall off stop working etc. we put up with them because of the cummins
I put 112k in 6 yrs on my 3rd gen dually and 104k in 5 yrs on my 4th gen 2500
Both were great trucks and huge improvent over the previous generation. Never had an issue out of either(clutches in 2007, too much power) i did not cause except the right rear wheel seal on the 2012.
Before the cummins trucks i had 3 7.3's one 97, one 02' and one 03'. I started looking elsewhere because i grew tired of my 2006 v-10, i wasnt going near the 6.0 so i found dodge and went that route for awhile. The 17' super dutys sucked me back in to ford and i am happy with the truck.
Wht i am saying is ford dodge and chevy all make top notch trucks that are on the same level as one another.
The cummins comes alive if the emissions parts fall off, just the same as the powerstroke.
The filters and oil changes on my 99,07 and 12 came out much cheaper than any other diesel. I know the 13'-up are more expensive fuel filters and oil filter more difficult to get to, not really familiar with them.
#53
Update:
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
Truck rides so much better than my F250 ever did, could be the heaver engine up front
UConnect 8.4 radio, Nav and ability to start from my phone is terrific
Pulls the trailer with easy and the stability of the dually is great.
Brake controller seems to be better
Right at 1,200 miles and no issues I really like this truck.
#54
Hi!,
Wow! That's a pretty good write up. The Cummins does have that rep for reliability. Yes it's true when I see an older Dodge, the truck looks like hell but the motor is still going. I hope the newer trucks just hold up better. Most of my experience is with my friends who own 1500s. These guys seem to trade out every few of years and claim for problem reasons. One of them who owns a 3500 trades them in every year or so due to business reasons. Another friend wishes he could trade in for another Ford as his current dodge was a disappointment.
In the friends circle we have a bunch of very loyal Ford guys. We all seem to keep our rides the longest. We even have an Eco Boost 150 in there. The 2 Chevy guys dare not open their mouths. Even the Toyota Tacoma owner makes fun of them. It's pretty funny when a Toyo had to pull one of them out. Funny too since the one Chevy guy uses his dad's F 350 to tow his camper. He can't get his Chevy on the road fast enough. Then claims he has over 300K on the truck. The last time I saw it was on blocks at his house rusting away.
Agreed! It does look like a nice rig for pulling.
As an owner of 2nd 3rd and 4th gen dodges i would like to weigh in
2nd gens live up to the dodge rep of falling apart around the motor, dash doors etc all have annoying bits and pieces that break fall off stop working etc. we put up with them because of the cummins
I put 112k in 6 yrs on my 3rd gen dually and 104k in 5 yrs on my 4th gen 2500
Both were great trucks and huge improvent over the previous generation. Never had an issue out of either(clutches in 2007, too much power) i did not cause except the right rear wheel seal on the 2012.
Before the cummins trucks i had 3 7.3's one 97, one 02' and one 03'. I started looking elsewhere because i grew tired of my 2006 v-10, i wasnt going near the 6.0 so i found dodge and went that route for awhile. The 17' super dutys sucked me back in to ford and i am happy with the truck.
Wht i am saying is ford dodge and chevy all make top notch trucks that are on the same level as one another.
The cummins comes alive if the emissions parts fall off, just the same as the powerstroke.
The filters and oil changes on my 99,07 and 12 came out much cheaper than any other diesel. I know the 13'-up are more expensive fuel filters and oil filter more difficult to get to, not really familiar with them.
2nd gens live up to the dodge rep of falling apart around the motor, dash doors etc all have annoying bits and pieces that break fall off stop working etc. we put up with them because of the cummins
I put 112k in 6 yrs on my 3rd gen dually and 104k in 5 yrs on my 4th gen 2500
Both were great trucks and huge improvent over the previous generation. Never had an issue out of either(clutches in 2007, too much power) i did not cause except the right rear wheel seal on the 2012.
Before the cummins trucks i had 3 7.3's one 97, one 02' and one 03'. I started looking elsewhere because i grew tired of my 2006 v-10, i wasnt going near the 6.0 so i found dodge and went that route for awhile. The 17' super dutys sucked me back in to ford and i am happy with the truck.
Wht i am saying is ford dodge and chevy all make top notch trucks that are on the same level as one another.
The cummins comes alive if the emissions parts fall off, just the same as the powerstroke.
The filters and oil changes on my 99,07 and 12 came out much cheaper than any other diesel. I know the 13'-up are more expensive fuel filters and oil filter more difficult to get to, not really familiar with them.
In the friends circle we have a bunch of very loyal Ford guys. We all seem to keep our rides the longest. We even have an Eco Boost 150 in there. The 2 Chevy guys dare not open their mouths. Even the Toyota Tacoma owner makes fun of them. It's pretty funny when a Toyo had to pull one of them out. Funny too since the one Chevy guy uses his dad's F 350 to tow his camper. He can't get his Chevy on the road fast enough. Then claims he has over 300K on the truck. The last time I saw it was on blocks at his house rusting away.
Agreed! It does look like a nice rig for pulling.
#55
#56
I had a Cummins Positives: When their is an Emissions problem you're only dealing with one company Cummins not Bosch, or numerous other suppliers. Mine had some issues but Cummins had Solution they build and warrantee Engine, DEF, Exhaust, Catalyst, EGR, the entire system one supplier. That's a good thing.. Not talking about rest of truck
#57
Take an objective look at this ...
We're Ford guys here. So don't take our word for it.
In the Consumer Reports last couple of annual auto reviews, the worst brands in terms of performance / reliability: at or near the bottom were Fiat, Ram, Dodge, and Jeep. All related to the same parent company.
Ram with Cummins?
Great engine wrapped in a POS.
We're Ford guys here. So don't take our word for it.
In the Consumer Reports last couple of annual auto reviews, the worst brands in terms of performance / reliability: at or near the bottom were Fiat, Ram, Dodge, and Jeep. All related to the same parent company.
Ram with Cummins?
Great engine wrapped in a POS.
#59
I just traded out of one. If it helps.. and honest response with no brand loyalty one way or the other?
My Ram 2500 cummins was a great truck... I liked owning it. But this is a list of everything that happened, under warranty, that had me in a rental.
Lower shock bolt came loose and was banging around..
Rear main seal leak...
Trans pan gasket started leaking within 20K miles
Both batteries needed replacing within the first 30K miles.. at $200 a pop.
It requires a very expensive, and pain the butt fuel filter change regimen that costs around $350 if you have a shop do it... and will bathe you in diesel and give you a crik in the neck if you do it yourself. Oil changes are around $150+ with good oil.. oil filter location will make you cuss.
At the end of the day, our new Ford F250 gasser has almost double the payload.. and the same towing capacity of the Ram 2500 cummins truck.
Our mileage in the Diesel was about 15mpg averaged over the year.. but diesel was more expensive.
#60
I just traded out of one. If it helps.. and honest response with no brand loyalty one way or the other?
My Ram 2500 cummins was a great truck... I liked owning it. But this is a list of everything that happened, under warranty, that had me in a rental.
Lower shock bolt came loose and was banging around..
Rear main seal leak...
Trans pan gasket started leaking within 20K miles
Both batteries needed replacing within the first 30K miles.. at $200 a pop.
It requires a very expensive, and pain the butt fuel filter change regimen that costs around $350 if you have a shop do it... and will bathe you in diesel and give you a crik in the neck if you do it yourself. Oil changes are around $150+ with good oil.. oil filter location will make you cuss.
At the end of the day, our new Ford F250 gasser has almost double the payload.. and the same towing capacity of the Ram 2500 cummins truck.
Our mileage in the Diesel was about 15mpg averaged over the year.. but diesel was more expensive.
My Ram 2500 cummins was a great truck... I liked owning it. But this is a list of everything that happened, under warranty, that had me in a rental.
Lower shock bolt came loose and was banging around..
Rear main seal leak...
Trans pan gasket started leaking within 20K miles
Both batteries needed replacing within the first 30K miles.. at $200 a pop.
It requires a very expensive, and pain the butt fuel filter change regimen that costs around $350 if you have a shop do it... and will bathe you in diesel and give you a crik in the neck if you do it yourself. Oil changes are around $150+ with good oil.. oil filter location will make you cuss.
At the end of the day, our new Ford F250 gasser has almost double the payload.. and the same towing capacity of the Ram 2500 cummins truck.
Our mileage in the Diesel was about 15mpg averaged over the year.. but diesel was more expensive.
I averaged 14.5mpg for the life of the truck which is not very impressive considering diesel averaging .75 - $1 more per gallon. I use a little more fuel with the 6.2 but it cost me less money at the end of the week. The regen cycles kill the fuel mileage on the new diesels. My 6.2 f250 after 2 years and almost 28,000 miles has been flawless. Saving on fuel, oil changes, and no nasty/expensive fuel filter replacements doesn't hurt either.
The f250 has a much better suspension and build quality as a whole. More payload, similar towing capacity, and far better driving characteristics.
There is a reason you can get a ram 2500 diesel for around the same price you can get a f250 gasser. You get what you pay for!