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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 10:40 PM
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I have a 1977 F-250 Custom with a big block 460 and a C6 automatic transmission. There are three main problems that I've been having with it.

1. It has a hard time turning over. It tries, but I have to hold the key down for a few seconds and give it some gas for it to start.

2. When I back it out of my driveway, it dies on the way down. But it runs ok once I take off in drive.

3. This one is rare, maybe two or three times a day. I'll be sitting at a stop light, and when I push on the gas, it takes off very slowly and gradually. I can have the pedal on the floor and it only gets up to about 5mph by the time I hit the end of the intersection. The engine revs up like normal, but the wheels take forever to get going. It speeds up like normal after a while, but not at the start.

I'm relatively new to car stuff. This truck was my first project. With that being said, I have no clue what's wrong. Any information is very much appreciated.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 11:02 PM
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Let's get back to basics.

Clean the start circuit terminals, battery hot, battery ground, and everything that connects to the starter solenoid.

These trucks are "ground deficient" in my opinion. I'd add extra grounds:
1. Bed to frame
2. Cab to frame
3. Core support to frame
4. Engine to cab (should already have one btwn the firewall and intake manifold).

... it sounds so me some carburetor adjustments and choke adjustments are necessary... the stall, slow acceleration, and hard-to-start. Adjust the float level, initial choke setting, and make sure the choke system is working.

Retest.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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OP has carb and maybe ignition troubles for sure, but also says this:

"The engine revs up like normal, but the wheels take forever to get going."

Check your transmission fluid. You may have deeper issues, and you WILL have deeper issues if you keep running it like that.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 11:24 PM
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1) if your primary cables are original or cheap parts-store cables, it's quite possible they're not carrying enough juice. If you don't know the condition of your cables you could ohm them out, but probably better to just get new cables-battery to solenoid, solenoid to starter, and block to battery ground. Also, you need a suitable battery with plenty of CCAs. I like the group 27f

2) Starts then stalls when cold...possibly choke

3) Revs up but truck don't go...that's transmission. Try changing the fluid, and flushing the lines. Possible that's it's just low on fluid...but get it fixed-they're expensive when they break
 
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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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Thanks guys... missed that part of the OP's description.

Distracted!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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Thanks guys. I'll definitely give all that a try.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dentside owner
I have a 1977 F-250 Custom with a big block 460 and a C6 automatic transmission. There are three main problems that I've been having with it.

1. It has a hard time turning over. It tries, but I have to hold the key down for a few seconds and give it some gas for it to start.
Our trucks are not your neighbors' Corollas where one just turns the key and it goes. We have to kick the pedal a coupla three times to set the choke (if you're running one), turn 'er over for a few seconds....then mebbe hit the pedal a few more times whilst she's turning over before she'll start. Would you explain "A hard time turning over?" Are describing a hard time cranking? If so, that would be the electrical connections, as previously stated.

2. When I back it out of my driveway, it dies on the way down. But it runs ok once I take off in drive.
She's still cold...and the choke needs to be set for her to warm up properly. After a good five minutes of warm up, punch the pedal to open the choke...if it's set right.

3. This one is rare, maybe two or three times a day. I'll be sitting at a stop light, and when I push on the gas, it takes off very slowly and gradually. I can have the pedal on the floor and it only gets up to about 5mph by the time I hit the end of the intersection. The engine revs up like normal, but the wheels take forever to get going. It speeds up like normal after a while, but not at the start.
Definitely transmission fluid low...or mebbe too late for the C6 fill the to proper level....now it's trans teardown time. Use type F.

I'm relatively new to car stuff. This truck was my first project. With that being said, I have no clue what's wrong. Any information is very much appreciated.
ALSO.....get yerself a DVOM, a vacuum gauge and timing light. Just to name a few indispensable tools for working on these vehicles.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:58 PM
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Update

It even stalls after it's warmed up, and the transmission fluid is about twice as high as it should be. And it has a manual choke.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 07:03 PM
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The C6 fluid is measured when the vehicle is warmed up and you ran through the gears, yes? Fluid too high is worse than too low! Correct the problem quickly!

Get back to us after the C6 fluid level is right.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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C6 dip stick interpretation

Be careful when judging the C6 dip stick, It will read way low if its cold and not running and you may interpret it has having way too much if its showing a light residue on the stick above the arrows..... Its a PITA to really pin down where its at...... I can tell when its really low you will know, because it wont go into gear....
 
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When looking at the dipstick, look for the fluid spec. M2C33-F= F TYPE. M2C138CJ=DEXRON.
 
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Originally Posted by Filthy Beast
The C6 fluid is measured when the vehicle is warmed up and you ran through the gears, yes? Fluid too high is worse than too low! Correct the problem quickly!

Get back to us after the C6 fluid level is right.
Agreed-too much fluid is worse than too little fluid

There's no shame in getting a second opinion. Take the truck to an oil-change place, and ask them to check (and show you) the dipstick. It's hard to reach anyway, so just tell the guys you couldn't reach it.

Stop in when they're not busy, and they'll likely check it for free. Whenever I go, the guys love seeing and talking about these great trucks. And they've all got a story about them...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 05:17 PM
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Further update

I realized today that sometimes it won't downshift to 1st gear, so it's trying to take off in 2nd. This is what's causing the slow takeoff. Anyone know why it decides not to downshift sometimes?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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Being too full of fluid may have caused the vacuum modulator valve to bung up. It may or may not work better after a spell. Maybe check it to be sure.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:02 AM
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Further update part 2

I know, I'm a moron. I just realized I've been driving the truck with the transfer case in 4HI with the hubs unlocked. Could this have caused the slow takeoff by any chance?
 
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