Tips on removing 460?
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Laughing Gas
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Tips on removing 460?
1985 F-250XL 4WD, 460, T19
I need to replace the clutch so I've decided to pull the engine to do it since I also need to do a head job and it will be easier to work on the engine with it out.
I'll have to cut the Y-pipe at the manifolds since the studs are so rusted there aren't even any threads left (I'm replacing the exhaust manifolds also).
Any gotcha's on pulling a 460?
I need to replace the clutch so I've decided to pull the engine to do it since I also need to do a head job and it will be easier to work on the engine with it out.
I'll have to cut the Y-pipe at the manifolds since the studs are so rusted there aren't even any threads left (I'm replacing the exhaust manifolds also).
Any gotcha's on pulling a 460?
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Don't cut that Y-pipe if it is in good shape.
Aftermarket is lousy.
It is the same as pulling any other engine.
If you're not going to remove the radiator support you might want to connect the hoist and then remove the front wheels to lower the truck.
I have used a *large* engine crane and it's still hairy to have 700# hanging that high.
Aftermarket is lousy.
It is the same as pulling any other engine.
If you're not going to remove the radiator support you might want to connect the hoist and then remove the front wheels to lower the truck.
I have used a *large* engine crane and it's still hairy to have 700# hanging that high.
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Laughing Gas
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Yeah, I'll cut the studs if I can.
I was planning on removing the radiator support since my engine hoist won't be able to lift the engine over it.
I have a heavy duty engine stand, so not really worried about the weight.
I was planning on removing the radiator support since my engine hoist won't be able to lift the engine over it.
I have a heavy duty engine stand, so not really worried about the weight.
Cargo Master
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Remove the rad support. Far easier and safer that way, and a good opportunity to clean up any rust on the rad support and change the mount bushings. You should be able to have it out in a couple hours, faster if you have help.
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Laughing Gas
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Wow, 6 months later and I finally have been able to get to pulling the engine.
What are the best lifting points? Making brackets to attach to the heads, using the PS pump mounting bracket bolts on the front of the head and diagonally opposite on the rear of the engine?
Amazingly I was able to get the y-pipe to manifold bolts loose. They were so corroded I didn't for a minute think it would be easy. But....
9/16 socket was too small and 5/8 was too big. I tried a 15mm and it went on just enough to not fall off when i let go, so I drove it all the way on with a hammer and my impact wrench spun it off. 6pt impact socket did the trick.
Had to put the socket in my vice to drive out the nut & stud, but that was minor.
What are the best lifting points? Making brackets to attach to the heads, using the PS pump mounting bracket bolts on the front of the head and diagonally opposite on the rear of the engine?
Amazingly I was able to get the y-pipe to manifold bolts loose. They were so corroded I didn't for a minute think it would be easy. But....
9/16 socket was too small and 5/8 was too big. I tried a 15mm and it went on just enough to not fall off when i let go, so I drove it all the way on with a hammer and my impact wrench spun it off. 6pt impact socket did the trick.
Had to put the socket in my vice to drive out the nut & stud, but that was minor.
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Cargo Master
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I normally use a chain from the front of one head to the back of the other, in the large accessory bolt holes. If I have room and patience to install it I'll use a load leveler attached to front and rear of each head.
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Cargo Master
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A wise suggestion. Another one is that 460s are hell on exhaust, at least mine was in the F350crew in my sig. I would put in all new pipes when you're in there.
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Laughing Gas
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I use a lift plate like this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They're inexpensive and work great on most carbureted V8s.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They're inexpensive and work great on most carbureted V8s.
I thought about installing headers but would want ceramic coated and didn't want to spend that kind of money.
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Laughing Gas
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I tried using one of the 3/8" holed on the top of the intake manifold that the air injection manifold bolts to. Luckily the bolt pulled out while the engine was still over the engine mount frame brackets.
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The same holes you see on the front of one head are on the back of the other. There is no "left" or "right" head, they are the same casting.
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Don't cut that Y-pipe if it is in good shape.
Aftermarket is lousy.
It is the same as pulling any other engine.
If you're not going to remove the radiator support you might want to connect the hoist and then remove the front wheels to lower the truck.
I have used a *large* engine crane and it's still hairy to have 700# hanging that high.
Aftermarket is lousy.
It is the same as pulling any other engine.
If you're not going to remove the radiator support you might want to connect the hoist and then remove the front wheels to lower the truck.
I have used a *large* engine crane and it's still hairy to have 700# hanging that high.
Been there, done that. You might consider just putting rims with no tires on the front so you can roll the truck out from under the engine when you get it raised up. It seems most cherry pickers have swivel casters on all 4 and never go where you want them to.
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Laughing Gas
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