Rancho RS9000x vs Rancho RS9000XL swap out; request for experience opinion
#1
03-05-2017, 08:29 AM
Rancho RS9000x vs Rancho RS9000XL swap out; request for experience opinion
Good morning; the project for today is in the suspension.
I have a set of RS9000X front shocks that I purchased for my old X just before the XL came out, I ended up just purchasing the full set of XL's and that was that. I had issue with the adjuster sizeded 2x's on them but the wty always was spot on and I was taken care of.
My question now: I have a set of Sensa Trac's on now with 10k and 1year 2 mo of use and the driver front seal is blown. They are all coming off......
I understand the foam core oil system vs pressurized gas system...
...but what are your experiences with the different shocks listed?
then opinions....
If I were to put the 9000x on what suggestions to match on the back? oil/foam
Thanks
I have a set of RS9000X front shocks that I purchased for my old X just before the XL came out, I ended up just purchasing the full set of XL's and that was that. I had issue with the adjuster sizeded 2x's on them but the wty always was spot on and I was taken care of.
My question now: I have a set of Sensa Trac's on now with 10k and 1year 2 mo of use and the driver front seal is blown. They are all coming off......
I understand the foam core oil system vs pressurized gas system...
...but what are your experiences with the different shocks listed?
then opinions....
If I were to put the 9000x on what suggestions to match on the back? oil/foam
Thanks
#2
03-05-2017, 09:34 AM
Lead Driver
Monroe's sensamstic, No big surprise montoes chespest shock leaked in a Year, actuslly im surprises it lasten that long.
Ranvho 9000
if you live in a wet or snowy area The adjusterers are a known problem and id not use them .
as far as "foam" shocks go, no idea what you are taking about but I would stick with a convential hydraulic shock. A mono-tube design would be choice.
Ranvho 9000
if you live in a wet or snowy area The adjusterers are a known problem and id not use them .
as far as "foam" shocks go, no idea what you are taking about but I would stick with a convential hydraulic shock. A mono-tube design would be choice.
#3
03-05-2017, 09:42 AM
#4
03-05-2017, 10:16 AM
Here ya go.
Stewart
You mention wanting the best possible ride out of it but do not give any criteria for what "best" means to you.
Personally I think the stock shocks that ford equipped the Excursion with were far to soft as they were clearly trying to attract the urban soccer mom buyer but obviously that is a subjective thing.
I find a firmer shock gives the Ex markedly better handeling charteristics while only sacrificing very little in comfort.
The bilstien 5100 series is a popular choice but only available in lengths for a lifted Ex
The bilstein 4600 is used by many stock height Ex owners. it is a monotube design like the 5100 but More of a stock replacement as it lacks the firmer valving of the 5100. Ok shock but pricey for what it is.
Rancho 9000 has an adjustable **** allowing you to choose the firmness of the valving and I like the product but have a hard time recommending it because of the problems they have been having with the adjuster mechanism corroding in salty road environments. I wish they would get this figured out.
" KYB Monomax " is a performance orientated monotube shock with firmer valving and made for stock height Excursions. I would compare their valving setup with the bilstein 5100. They are also considerably less expensive which is a bonus.
rockauto.com had a decent selection of the above.
Personally I think the stock shocks that ford equipped the Excursion with were far to soft as they were clearly trying to attract the urban soccer mom buyer but obviously that is a subjective thing.
I find a firmer shock gives the Ex markedly better handeling charteristics while only sacrificing very little in comfort.
The bilstien 5100 series is a popular choice but only available in lengths for a lifted Ex
The bilstein 4600 is used by many stock height Ex owners. it is a monotube design like the 5100 but More of a stock replacement as it lacks the firmer valving of the 5100. Ok shock but pricey for what it is.
Rancho 9000 has an adjustable **** allowing you to choose the firmness of the valving and I like the product but have a hard time recommending it because of the problems they have been having with the adjuster mechanism corroding in salty road environments. I wish they would get this figured out.
" KYB Monomax " is a performance orientated monotube shock with firmer valving and made for stock height Excursions. I would compare their valving setup with the bilstein 5100. They are also considerably less expensive which is a bonus.
rockauto.com had a decent selection of the above.
#5
03-05-2017, 10:25 AM
#7
03-05-2017, 10:37 AM
To help the Rancho RS9000XL's adjuster ***** and innards last longer and perform as designed better you can fill the adjuster void with white lithium (or nearly any other grease I suppose).
The adjuster mounts via a plate through which the **** protrudes that is held in place with 2 small Allen head fasteners. Take those Allens out and pull the entire adjuster plate/****/inner pin assembly off the shock, then fill the void they go into with the grease and reassemble. That should keep any salt/water/gunk out of the adjuster mechanism and allow proper function for a long while, it can be redone periodically to keep them happy. I would also recommend shooting a couple or three coats of good clear paint on the silver shock bodies prior to installation to keep them looking good for longer.
The adjuster mounts via a plate through which the **** protrudes that is held in place with 2 small Allen head fasteners. Take those Allens out and pull the entire adjuster plate/****/inner pin assembly off the shock, then fill the void they go into with the grease and reassemble. That should keep any salt/water/gunk out of the adjuster mechanism and allow proper function for a long while, it can be redone periodically to keep them happy. I would also recommend shooting a couple or three coats of good clear paint on the silver shock bodies prior to installation to keep them looking good for longer.
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#9
03-05-2017, 11:29 AM
Lead Driver
kyb does offer a monomax for a 2" lifted F250 do that would work on a 4" ex lift but I suspect that the rear f250 shocks are valved lighter then the Ex. Maybe a call to their tech dept could provide some answers otherwise we would need to send them to somebody with a shock Dyno.
#11
03-05-2017, 08:17 PM
Cargo Master
#13
03-06-2017, 09:51 AM
Former Vendor
A great article on the "old school" 9000X vs 9000XL
RANCHO SUSPENSION: What is the difference between the Rancho RS9000X and Rancho RS9000XL shocks?
In regards to rust, ANY shock will rust, (yes even the bling shocks). Many people use Fluid Film, or hit the shock with added clear coat protectant.
RANCHO SUSPENSION: What is the difference between the Rancho RS9000X and Rancho RS9000XL shocks?
In regards to rust, ANY shock will rust, (yes even the bling shocks). Many people use Fluid Film, or hit the shock with added clear coat protectant.
#14
03-06-2017, 10:41 AM
To help the Rancho RS9000XL's adjuster ***** and innards last longer and perform as designed better you can fill the adjuster void with white lithium (or nearly any other grease I suppose).
The adjuster mounts via a plate through which the **** protrudes that is held in place with 2 small Allen head fasteners. Take those Allens out and pull the entire adjuster plate/****/inner pin assembly off the shock, then fill the void they go into with the grease and reassemble. That should keep any salt/water/gunk out of the adjuster mechanism and allow proper function for a long while, it can be redone periodically to keep them happy. I would also recommend shooting a couple or three coats of good clear paint on the silver shock bodies prior to installation to keep them looking good for longer.
The adjuster mounts via a plate through which the **** protrudes that is held in place with 2 small Allen head fasteners. Take those Allens out and pull the entire adjuster plate/****/inner pin assembly off the shock, then fill the void they go into with the grease and reassemble. That should keep any salt/water/gunk out of the adjuster mechanism and allow proper function for a long while, it can be redone periodically to keep them happy. I would also recommend shooting a couple or three coats of good clear paint on the silver shock bodies prior to installation to keep them looking good for longer.
#15
03-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Laughing Gas
A great article on the "old school" 9000X vs 9000XL
RANCHO SUSPENSION: What is the difference between the Rancho RS9000X and Rancho RS9000XL shocks?
In regards to rust, ANY shock will rust, (yes even the bling shocks). Many people use Fluid Film, or hit the shock with added clear coat protectant.
RANCHO SUSPENSION: What is the difference between the Rancho RS9000X and Rancho RS9000XL shocks?
In regards to rust, ANY shock will rust, (yes even the bling shocks). Many people use Fluid Film, or hit the shock with added clear coat protectant.
While I agree that all shocks will rust, I expected full functionality for longer than a year and a half.
I can't see any circumstance where I could recommend the RS9000 to anyone who lives in a salted area. Save your money and get the RS5000 because that's what you will end up with so why pay more.
