I got 31k for my paid off 2011 f250 and put that towards the purchase of the 2017. My trucks window sticker shows $69,760.

$65,000 invoice pricing
-$1000 customer cash rebate
-$750 Ford private cash rebate
-$500 AQHA rebate
Final Purchase price = $62,750

 

Not true. Only a diesel on 37's will work as a substitute for Viagra while driving to the mall.

 

I went from a 2012 F150 to a 2017 6.7 250. I went into the dealership looking for a custom ordered gasser. They had the exact truck I wanted on the lot, but in a diesel. I was set on my order, but since my wife was getting a car they told me to drive the diesel overnight for fun. I took the bait and never looked back. After the driving the diesel, there was not way I could go back. The next day I changed my order to diesel and have not thought twice about it since. I don't two 15,000 lbs or anything, but i do occasional tow 8000-12,000. Most recently, I towed an 8000 lb enclosed trailer from Michigan to Virginia. Man it was nice having the diesel to chug along in the hills without the constant high reving. Most of the time I get it in I am doing "grocery" runs and other non-manly things, but man do I still love it.

So, no, I don't regret it. If I had a do over I might consider the 350 just because it isn't that much of an upcharge, but it isn't something that I genuinely regret.
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why hey would you go to a 350? Better tow rating or?

 

Better payload and tow ratings (for the SRW I think it is 3000-4000 lbs higher), without much difference in ride quality. Some say the resale may be a bit higher on the 350 as well. In my current situation, I am not sure if I would ever need the increased 350 towing capacity, but the extra payload certainly could come in handy. I would bet every once in a blue moon I will have a payload that exceeds my rating. The resale I am not worried about. When I go to trade it in I will get what I get.

 

Heavier duty rear diff, thicker axles, increased towing and payload. Have a good serious look at the differences in towing and payload ratings 250 vs 350 do your research. You get some tangible upgrades for the money its worth it imo. Plus resale value bump. For the marginal price difference I think it pencils out to a strong yes.

 

Because you can.

 

Power stroke all the way is what she said LOL
Gas no Power
Diesel pure power

 

Think hard and dream big. You're going to be stuck with whatever truck you buy for the next 4-10 years depending on how often you upgrade. During that time can you ever see yourself wanting to pull a huge RV or boat? What if everything lines up for you financially over that long period of time?

I do regret very much not buying more truck. You can read all about it in my DRW conversion thread. In that thread I priced an F450 at just a few thousand dollars more than my F250... and I really think the F450 was a little higher because I added some options I now know to look for -- like the camper package.

I want to state that my F250 is incredibly awesome! I love it, and it makes me happy all day long every day. But when I look back and see that I could have a 'sky is the limit' truck for the same money, I just kick myself.

You *can* make the F250 into (basically) the same truck as the F350 with less than $1,000 of modifications -- although nobody will give you credit for it as far as your payload sticker.

But if you haven't signed the papers yet, why not just get an awesome payload sticker, better resale, future proof yourself and get an F350 or better?

 

I went from a '99 F250 V10 to a new F350 6.7L and have not looked back. The V10 was a strong runner for sure, but always seemed to be working to do anything. The diesel is "butta" as they say. It is smooth, powerful and makes everything seem effortless. Yes I love the sound, but the on-demand power is amazing. Going from a 250 to a 350, I was a bit worried about the ride quality, but so far I am very impressed. I did skip the FX4 package as I was not interested in the Hill Descent Control or Rancho shocks (which I've heard are a bit harsh) and I am totally happy with the stock ride. Don't get me wrong, it's no Mercedes on washboard roads, but on a normal road or highway it's totally smooth and I don't regret stepping up to a 1 ton for more versatility- especially once I finally decide on which fifth wheel I want and step up from my current trailer.

 

Ford sells more F-250 trucks than any other model in the Super Duty lineup. The fact that you can buy a 250, 350, or 450 pickup means Ford is simply tailoring the truck to be the best 'compromise' for your particular usage.

All of the Super Duty pickup trucks for 2017 utilize the same exact frame, transfer case, driveshafts, front axle, and front suspension. If the trucks are diesel, they utilize the same exact engine and transmission. From there, the difference between a 250, 350, and 450 involves different rear axles and different rear leaf suspensions. The 450 differentiates itself slightly more by offering a 'wide track' front end for tighter turns and larger brakes (because they can fit in the base rim size of 19.5).

You can say the 450 is "the most truck" and it is mostly true. It has the highest tow rating, a whopping 500lbs more than a basic F-350 dually diesel. It does NOT have the highest payload rating (F-350 dually does) but when it comes to engine and transmission...no different than the "lowly" F-250.

So basically, what is your pleasure? An F-250 is the same Super Duty truck as the rest, but with the user in mind who will need to pull or haul something a bit much for an F-150, or just prefers to drive an HD truck. It will ride the best, it will be the quickest accelerating, get the best fuel economy, and be the cheapest of the Super Dutys...and manage to avoid registration penalties in most jurisdictions.

The 350 SRW is the same truck, but with a higher GVWR and typically a higher payload. The tradeoff is very small...usually the ride quality, price increase, acceleration, and fuel economy are all very similar. A 350 with the upgraded M275 axle and extra leaf might weigh slightly more, causing an ever so slight difference in fuel economy and acceleration, but we are talking negligible differences. Most people go this route because the door sticker legally lets them do more, and the payload may be legitimately higher due to stiffer leafs and / or extra leaf.

Finally, you get to the dually 350 and the compromises become a little more severe. Ride quality is noticeably worse, fuel economy is most definitely worse, and you now take up more of the lane on the road and parking can be more of a chore. You are limited to a 17" wheel. Obviously the benefits include pretty much the best payload ratings, higher tow ratings, higher GVWR, and a more stable tow platform for very heavy trailers.

Lastly is the 450. All of the same compromises apply to this truck as to the 350 DRW, with additional compromises being potentially an even worse ride if max psi is run in the tires unloaded, being limited to only the 4.30 gears which will provide the worst fuel economy of any Super Duty pickup, and having very limited tire options...and for now, the lack of TPMS. What you gain is the very best tow rating, a great payload, the coolest-looking truck...and surprisingly, a much improved turning radius over similar long wheelbase Super Dutys.

If your purpose was to drive up old fire roads to a hunting camp, or other off-road driving, DRW is a major liability...as it long wheel base.

So basically, the folks who "regret" buying a 250...unless you bought a truck that cannot do what you wanted it to, are basically complaining that they didn't buy a truck with a stiffer suspension and extra wheels...hmmm

 

^^^ This!^^^

 

Regrets?? None - Not buying it sooner...

 

I thought long and hard about this decision myself. After reading way too many posts on this forum and many RV forums, I bought an F450. The wide track means I can maneuver tighter than even the short bed crew cab. The DRW (plus the wide track a little) means I'll have a more stable towing experience, especially in high winds and down hill turns. Having DRW means I have redundancy if I lose a rear tire. For those who have been in a towing situation and had a rear tire explode on a SRW, it is quite scary. Having a 14,000 GVWR means that I'll be within all of Ford's stated limits on the truck - something I could not do with the 11,500 GVWR limit on the F350 SRW. Everyone gets to decide for themselves - it is very rare to hear someone towing a big fifth wheel with a DRW saying they regret not getting a SRW. You do hear the regret the other way though.

 

Not sure what your dealer showed you, but actual invoice on a $69760 truck is closer to $63,800. Not a big deal when dropping $63k, but it's not beer money either.