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Old 11-08-2018, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
This might help you and/or someone else out in the future. Your tags are missing so there is some data that you can't retrieve there. There is an axle code on your build sticker on your driver's side door jam and that should tell you what it was built with.

Mark the tag you speak of is a little worn on my truck.


 
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:24 PM
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Mark the tag you speak of is a little worn on my truck.

Not too worn to see that you have a D1 axle but that would be in the rear, it's a 3.73 LS. Your front axle is more than likely a Dana 60, like someone else said above.
 
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2002 View Post
Which front end do I have?

The tag is ilegible at this point. The plastic tag isnt. Explain that?

Mark, the door tag you speak of is a little worn on my truck.

You have an open (standard) Dana 60 front end with a 3.73 ratio, based on the "D1" as seen under "Axle" on your door label, and based on the Bill of Material number as seen on your axle label.

Here are some Dana repair kit part numbers applicable to your specific front axle.

Bill Of Material: 611159-1
Differential Type: STD (standard)
Ratio: 3.73
Ring And Pinion Kit: 708123-1
Differential Assy Kit: 706180X
Differential Case Kit: 706040X
Diff Inner Parts Kit: 706702X
Right Hand Shaft Assy: 76150-1X
Left Hand Shaft Assy: 76150-2X
 
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:46 PM
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Assuming I have the Dana 60 front end, I found current prices for the installation tool.




Dana 60 TS4644 Adjutsable Inner Axle Seal Installer tool $140.00 from Torque King

Works like this, inside the case/pumpkin:



You can get it with the seals from TorqueKing for $235 tool with 2 inner seals, but that's a lousy price for the seals.

Some posts refer to Ford spreader bar 205-428, but that's only literally the the threaded spreading bar. Not cups.



Then there is this simple unit for which you have to find 3 feet worth of 1/2 inch ratchet extensions, so you can use a hammer from outiside the axle and then pound the seal in.The instructions in the link are entertaining.

Super Duty Front Inner Axle Seal Installer $100


Maybe one of you guys can tell me if Ive chosen the correct inner seals at ROCKAUTO. One is listed (National/Spicer) as for my truck, the other is a part number from TIMKEN I found in another post. I think they are the same exact part, 710492. Not sure which is better is at all.



Lastly, I did my front ball joints 4 years ago / 20k miles ago and I changed the dust seal and some other seal...cant remember.

Will those need to be destroyed in the process?



I think they are these two seals:
 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57 View Post
You have an open (standard) Dana 60 front end with a 3.73 ratio, based on the "D1" as seen under "Axle" on your door label, and based on the Bill of Material number as seen on your axle label.
Thanks Buster.

As regards to the open front DANA, is it possible to put in a limited slip unit??? Right now it just locks both front wheels when I engage the transfer case. Great for snow and mud, not viable for rain.
 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2002 View Post
Lastly, I did my front ball joints 4 years ago / 20k miles ago and I changed the dust seal and some other seal...cant remember.

Will those need to be destroyed in the process?
I'm not sure which two you are referring to but as far as the seals that press onto the axle (inner dust seal and the outer axle seal that helps seal the knuckle) should be fine. If you are careful you can probably get away with re-using the o-ring ones. Personally, when I still had the ESOF up front I replaced the o-rings every time I pulled the hub off. The cost was worth it to me to not have to tear everything apart again to replace them if they were bad. When I gave up on the ESOF hubs I re-used the o-rings as they were only for debris intrusion at that point.

Just my .02
 
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I'm not sure which two you are referring to but as far as the seals that press onto the axle (inner dust seal and the outer axle seal that helps seal the knuckle) should be fine. If you are careful you can probably get away with re-using the o-ring ones. Personally, when I still had the ESOF up front I replaced the o-rings every time I pulled the hub off. The cost was worth it to me to not have to tear everything apart again to replace them if they were bad. When I gave up on the ESOF hubs I re-used the o-rings as they were only for debris intrusion at that point.

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I'm referring to the inner dust seal and outer axle seal, yup. If I wont ruin them taking the axles out, that saves me over $100 seals which I changed 3 years ago. Thanks Brian.
 
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Old 11-09-2018, 08:50 AM
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Um, you shouldn't be using 4x4 in the rain. that is no different than running it on open dry pavement. You'll burn up a transfer case pretty quick doing that.
 
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