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Old 12-26-2016, 06:26 AM
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Do I need airbags?

Hi guys I ve been debating on weather I need airbags for my current setup , what do you think?
 
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Old 12-26-2016, 07:22 AM
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I assume that's loaded up the way you take it camping? Do you know your pin weight? And you have an aux gas tank, is it full in that pic? How does it ride going down the road, is it soft in the rear, get a lot of porpoising?

Mine was a pretty obvious need with my rig. This is loaded up with the stock suspension, 2500 lbs on the pin:




I definitely needed bags. Rides very nice and level with 40 lbs in the bags:

 
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:00 AM
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That's pretty much loaded up but before I installed the aux tank, pin weight is 1500 lbs dry weight. The aux tank holds 65 gallons so aprx 400 lbs? But it's midship so not all of that is on the rear
 
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:13 AM
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looks ok to me...how does it ride? and do you bottom out much?
 
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Old 12-26-2016, 10:26 AM
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Seems to ride fine no bottoming out or porpoising, just that sometimes when it's parked it seems to squat down more than other times.
 
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These 250's sit practically level from the factory, unlike previous years that had some rake. This was my load to the outer banks of nc, 1600 miles round trip.Name:  photo602.jpg
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30' travel trailer loaded up with a golf cart in the bed, plus firewood, tools and other odds and ends. Air bags would have been nice for looks, and if I had been traveling at night, I'm sure oncoming traffic would have appreciated them, but the truck handled, drove, and rode like a champ. If you will be pulling it often, then yes, they are probably worth it. But for me, I will do a long haul like this maybe once a year, so it's not a big deal to me.
 
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:31 AM
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Boy either you guys have super soft springs on those 250's... or i have some monster springs on mine 350.. I rolled across the scales at 14,000 for the full pickup.. something like 7k in the bed and I was sitting level.. obviously not a trailer so I didn't have to worry about the trailer swaying and playing funny.

 
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:52 AM
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The 350's have taller rear blocks, so you are getting into your overloads about the time you get level. You also have a flatbed that doesn't show it as badly. You can thank the aftermarket and everyone wanting to sit level for the f250s sitting the way they do. But no, we have the same springs.
 
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A trailer hanging on off the back of the truck has more leverage than a load spread all over the bed as well.
 
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:57 AM
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Yah I was sitting on the overloads with that particular load.. probably quite a bit more than I should have been.. but yah my pickup sits really close to level when its unloaded, I was just surprised how well it sad when loaded..

I dont really tow large trailers very often unless its a car trailer but those are normally bumper pulls and really have not had the chance with this pickup yet, towed them a number of times with my old pickup.
 
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There's a difference in spring packs. The standard F-250 rear springs do not have an overload spring in the stack. That is why there's a difference. You are comparing apples to zebras.
 
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowpoke Slim
There's a difference in spring packs. The standard F-250 rear springs do not have an overload spring in the stack. That is why there's a difference. You are comparing apples to zebras.
Didnt want to start a fight over spring packs.. I knew you could get different weights, I didnt know they varied that much in the newer pickups.. I came from older pickups were you didnt have so many options.
 
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Mine has the snow plow prep and camper package and therefore the same spring pack and sway bar as the f350 but the spring blocks are only 2"
 
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And that camper package gives you the overload springs, which is probably why your trucks sits pretty good the way it is. I can say while it doesn't appear that you need the airbags for ride height, I have added them in the past and like the way the truck tows with them. It tows better once they are installed. When the factory springs aren't loaded down so much by the help of the airbags, the load always felt more stable with my toy hauler bumper pulls.

If you don't want airbags, and are looking for 1.25" of rear lift, you can pick up a set of 2017 F250 blocks. I have a set in the garage now that I swapped out for some 2016 F250 blocks. I lowered the rear of my extremely factory raked F250.
 
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Originally Posted by Tarster

I'm jealous of that firewood haul. Where do you cut around here?
 


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