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Old 12-13-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
You know, the man at the parts counter at my local Ford dealer made this same mistake. The part numbers and the moldings above that both Number Dummy and Gary Lewis listed are wrong. (It's a miracle I ever found the correct ones.)

If you look on Page 40F (diagram P-15686) under "Exterior Moldings Section" on the parts CD, you will see the correct moldings, all starting with E5TZ.

That's TWICE you missed part numbers for the 1985/86 models, Gary.
Yup, you are right - I was WRONG.

And I'm really glad you found that. Notice that the 21048 stuff says "kit", meaning you get a roll of the stuff as the brochure said. But the later stuff is already cut for each specific location. In fact, as Rick previously pointed out, there is a piece for trucks with standard or western mirrors, and a different one for swing-lock mirrors.

Ok, this has to get documented on my web site. Rick, can you post some good close-up pics? Including one of the end with the door open to show the cross-section?


 
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Ok, this has to get documented on my web site. Rick, can you post some good close-up pics? Including one of the end with the door open to show the cross-section?
Please do. The early 1985 upper body protection molding is apparently a very rare option and a real mystery. It should be documented. This molding is what makes the early 1985 models different from all the other 1980 - 1986 trucks.


I. - Front fender molding:





II. - Front fender molding with a side view of the end cap:




III. - Door molding with section cut out to allow for the lower brace on the "Swing-Lock" mirrors: (Trucks with the "Western" or "Standard" mirrors got a different molding without this cut out.)




IV. - Door molding with cut-out for the key lock:




V. - Door molding cross section:





VI. - Back of the molding showing the double stick tape:

 
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
You know, the man at the parts counter at my local Ford dealer made this same mistake.

The part numbers and the moldings above that both Number Dummy and Gary Lewis listed are wrong. (It's a miracle I ever found the correct ones.)
The E0TZ 'pressure sensitive' upper body side mouldings I made reference to were introduced in 1980, could be installed thru 1986 (pic in post 11).

In 1985, Ford introduced a new type of 'pressure sensitive' upper body side mouldings that were also used in 1986.

I'm well aware of these E5TZ mouldings, but assumed that some members reading this thread would not be aware of the E0TZ mouldings.

The thing is, if I had known that 25+ years later, I'd be looking up mouldings for 1980/86 trucks, I would have paid more attention to the different types.

Some members of this forum are so cheap they wouldn't pay a nickel to watch an ant eat a bale of hay and...would complain if they were hung with a new rope!
 
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Thanks, NumberDummy.

Will you be so kind as to check the Ford dealers database, and see if there are any of these part numbers left?

E5TZ-1520938-A
E5TZ-1520939-A
E5TZ-9929038-A
E5TZ-9929039-A
 
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Rick - See what you think of this page, and especially the pics at the bottom of Upper Moulding/Regular Cab: Exterior Trim and Moulding - ???Gary's Garagemahal
 
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
Thanks, NumberDummy.

Will you be so kind as to check the Ford dealers database, and see if there are any of these part numbers left?

E5TZ-1520938-A
E5TZ-1520939-A
E5TZ-9929038-A
E5TZ-9929039-A
No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
 
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Rick - See what you think of this page, and especially the pics at the bottom of Upper Moulding/Regular Cab: Exterior Trim and Moulding - ???Gary's Garagemahal
Great job, Chief!

But, I think the pictures of the molding I provided might look better if they were shown on an actual truck.

Due to the fact that *my* truck has new paint, and the moldings are NOS, I would be honored if you would use my truck for your website. As soon as the weather gets a little better and I get time off from work, I will clean her up and take some glamour shots.

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No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
Thank You. Due to the rarity of these, I am always on the lookout for spare parts.

In fact, I considered leaving mine off, because if any of these moldings become damaged, replacements are unobtainable.

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I'm well aware of these E5TZ mouldings, but assumed that some members reading this thread would not be aware of the E0TZ mouldings.
Do you know WHY the 1985 upper moldings (E5TZ) were only used for a few months and quickly dropped?
 
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
Great job, Chief!

But, I think the pictures of the molding I provided might look better if they were shown on an actual truck.

Due to the fact that *my* truck has new paint, and the moldings are NOS, I would be honored if you would use my truck for your website. As soon as the weather gets a little better and I get time off from work, I will clean her up and take some glamour shots.
I'd love to have shots from your truck, and will gladly replace the current shots. But, when you take the shots of the truck can you see if you can get them in focus a bit better? Your truck is a head-turner so the pics need to do it justice.
 
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My 85 had this molding as well. I had no idea that it was rare. But now that I think about it I haven't seen many with it around, mostly just the lower molding and around the wheel wells. The rubber on mine was completely shot and I ended up just completely getting rid of it when I repainted and replaced it with a painted pin stripe.


 
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
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The cover of the early 1985 Ford F-Series brochure (8/84) looks like this:





HOWEVER, the cover of the later 1985 Ford F-Series brochure (1/85) looks like this:

I was documenting this on my web site (in the 1985 blub here: 1980 - 86 Ford Trucks - ???Gary's Garagemahal) and got to looking at the front covers of these two brochures closely. And, oddly enough, I cannot find any difference whatsoever beyond the trim on the side of the truck. The clouds are the same, the cowboy and horses are the same, the shadows are the same, the rocks on the ground are the same, and the pickup is in exactly the same place relative to everything around it.

That says to me that the picture has been "photoshopped", although Photoshop didn't come out until 1988. In any event, they took some trouble to change out the trim, and there had to be a reason - like the trim was no longer available.

Rick - Thanks for pointing this out. As you said to me, I'm a nerd for this kind of thing, and have captured it on my web site where I'm, as David said, Figuring Out Random Details about these trucks.
 
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Funny before I read the words of your post I was going back n forth between the 2 pictures and thought the same thing Photo Shop!


I am sure they had something that they could take the 2 pictures and over lay them.
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Is this the moulding you guys are talking about? Truck was made in like January or February of '85, fyi


Here's a close-up of the cross section of the trim
 
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Spencer - Since it is cut out for the door key and the mirrors I'm sure it is the same stuff. But, can you look at your certification label on the door post to get the build date? It looks like yours is a later build than either of the others, and I'd like to know when it was built for me web site.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Spencer - Since it is cut out for the door key and the mirrors I'm sure it is the same stuff. But, can you look at your certification label on the door post to get the build date? It looks like yours is a later build than either of the others, and I'd like to know when it was built for me web site.
I'm sure you know this: The 1985/86 specific upper body side mouldings are shown on page 40 in the Exterior Moulding Sextion after the stripe kits, a dumb location IMO, because who would think to look there.

There are two different door mouldings, one for the swing-lok mirrors, another for the Western and Passenger Car type mirrors.

Post #27: It's difficult to see a mirror "cut-out" in the upper pic, the lower pic isn't much clearer.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
But, can you look at your certification label on the door post to get the build date? It looks like yours is a later build than either of the others, and I'd like to know when it was built for me web site.


And the moulding does have mirror and lock cut-outs
 


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