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Old 11-29-2016, 07:40 PM
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I found a guy selling what he says are factory NOS front fenders (both sides) for what seems like a reasonable price. Says he worked for a Ford dealer in the 90's and has had them since. How do I determine if they are the real deal? Will there be part numbers or stampings to look for? The NOS bed sides came in the original boxes and have Ford stampings but I seem to recall they were made overseas (might be wrong). I have aftermarket replacement fenders (overseas) already, not installed yet. Does anyone have any experience with NOS or aftermarket front fenders that could tell me if there is much difference, or if NOS is worth it? Thanks.
 
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:47 PM
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Don't know much about NOS fender numbers and markings. But I can guarentee their quality and thickness will be 100% better than the aftermarket fenders. The aftermarket fenders are ok and do the job, but if you are picky only the factory ones will ever do.
 
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We used aftermarket on our trucks but getting them to fit correctly is a bit of work - reamer has some good advice on fitting them in a thread that I'll have to dig up.

I swear that mine still very slightly open up the door / fender gap when my back is turned but I can't be sure
 
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Anything produced by Ford should have FORD written all over it. Look on the mounting flanges where the top of the fender is bolted to the body; at a minimum there should be at least one Ford oval insignia stamped into it and some sort of engineering ID, probably something like E1TA BA or somesuch (that's an example).
 
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:32 AM
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Good info. Thanks. Now I just have to go look at them, and of course the guy has them way out of town. I'll post an update if they ever materialize.
 
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Yep, should be a Ford Oval on the upper - inner lip where it's welded to the inner skin.
SC, ya still have not fought the fender alignment?
 
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Anything produced by Ford should have FORD written all over it. Look on the mounting flanges where the top of the fender is bolted to the body; at a minimum there should be at least one Ford oval insignia stamped into it and some sort of engineering ID, probably something like E1TA BA or somesuch (that's an example).

Something like this, Chris? Look at the last two photos. NOS 1980-1986 GENUINE FORD TRUCK BRONCO RIGHT FRONT FENDER F150 F250 OEM | eBay
 
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:16 AM
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Now I know what to look for. Thanks.
 
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Now I know what to look for. Thanks.
You sure about that?

When Ford updates a part number, dealers have one year to return the original part number for credit, otherwise they're STUCK with it.

E1TZ-16005-B (replaced E0TZ-16005-A) Right & E1TZ-16006-B (replaced E0TZ-16006-A) Left .. Front Fenders: 1980/86 F100/350 & Bronco.

So, it's possible that these fenders have the original 1980 part numbers, why the seller acquired them in 1990's, probably for cheap...because the dealer was STUCK with them.
 
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You sure about that?

When Ford updates a part number, dealers have one year to return the original part number for credit, otherwise they're STUCK with it.

E1TZ-16005-B (replaced E0TZ-16005-A) Right & E1TZ-16006-B (replaced E0TZ-16006-A) Left .. Front Fenders: 1980/86 F100/350 & Bronco.

So, it's possible that these fenders have the original 1980 part numbers, why the seller acquired them in 1990's, probably for cheap...because the dealer was STUCK with them.
Because the Parts Manager wasn't on top of their game. I inherited no-turn, obsolete, in the red inventories at 3 different dealers for that very reason.
 
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Hi Bill, I hoped you would join us. Specifically I was referring to where a part number and/or Ford stamping would be on a NOS fender (from ad photo). So the next question, is there any physical difference between E0TZ and E1TZ? If the fenders are legit and if they have part numbers, would the E0TZ fit my '81? Apparently the guy rebuilt a truck or 2 back in the day and had these leftover from a project that didn't get done.
 
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Is there any physical difference between E0TZ and E1TZ?
I couldn't say, haven't seen any of these fenders since George H.W. Bush was prez.

If the fenders are legit and if they have part numbers, would the E0TZ fit my '81?
Of course, since E1TZ replaced EOTZ

FoMoCo is in-famous for replacing/updating 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY YEAR!

WhatsAChevy: Ever do a PIPP?

1966/86: I bought out over 300 west coast FoMoCo dealers stocks of obsolete parts because the P/M's never did a PIPP or a POPP.

The biggest haul was El Monte Ford. While the manager was alive, he never returned anything...wouldn't sell anything either.

When he died and the owner found out what he had done, he said GET RID of this crap! It took two semi trailers to haul the parts away.
 

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Of course, since E1TZ replaced EOTZ

FoMoCo is in-famous for replacing/updating 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY YEAR!

WhatsAChevy: Ever do a PIPP?

1966/86: I bought out over 300 west coast FoMoCo dealers stocks of obsolete parts because the P/M's never did a PIPP or a POPP.

The biggest haul was El Monte Ford. While the manager was alive, he never returned anything...wouldn't sell anything either.

When he died and the owner found out what he had done, he said GET RID of this crap! It took two semi trailers to haul the parts away.
I certainly have...this strikes a nerve with me. One of the "few" dealer principals that i worked for was a hoarder because his father started the dealership in 1932 and collected one from every model year in a warehouse. That warehouse caught fire. He hoarded everything since in memory of his father. Parts, advertising, apparel, you name it. The Parts Dept. had a 2 foot winding path through it with parts everywhere. On the floor, shelves and in the rafters. I was charged with sorting, cataloging and the dispensing of a half-million dollar parts inventory. I get it.
 
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I certainly have...this strikes a nerve with me. One of the "few" dealer principals that i worked for was a hoarder because his father started the dealership in 1932 and collected one from every model year in a warehouse. That warehouse caught fire. He hoarded everything since in memory of his father. Parts, advertising, apparel, you name it. The Parts Dept. had a 2 foot winding path through it with parts everywhere. On the floor, shelves and in the rafters. I was charged with sorting, cataloging and the dispensing of a half-million dollar parts inventory. I get it.
The thing is, doing a PIPP is time consuming and dealers, especially in small towns, didn't have the manpower.

So, they had to do it on off hours, evenings and weekends when the dealers parts departments were closed.

Getting the dealer principles to pay for those off hours could be daunting, so many P/M's didn't bother.

btw: I see you have a DeSoto with "Clunk-O-Matic." I owned a '49 DeSoto in the early 1970's and knew how to drive it, cuz I learned to drive in 1952 on a '47 Chisler with "Clunk-O-Matic."
 
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