I've always had health insurance, but I'm curious. What did people without health insurance do previous to"Obama care"?

 

Survived
Honestly cant answer as I too have always been covered. Ridiculous prices these days. Actually just opted out of wifes plan at work (Cigna) and re-joined Kaiser at 450 a month. Always had Kaiser and love them. Watch this,,a simple blood test bill (Cigna) came in at 1450, with my share 430.00.
Hope Trump wipes that obummer care crap soon

 

they did without and hoped they did not get really sick.
i lost insurance when the old job closed in 09, and went 5 years without. the doctors worked with me when i went to them, same with the lab for blood work.
i do not have insurance again, because i can not afford it. in 08 i was paying a little over $200 a month. in 14 when i got the new job it was $498 a month.
2015 it went to $812 a month. for 2016 the price went up to $2124 a month.
my boss is going without also. his went up to $10,470 a month for him, his wife, and 3 children. it is cheaper for him to pay out of pocket direct to doctors when any of us goes to see the doctor.

 

Holy cow Tom, are you kidding? 2k a month is outta this world let alone what boss would pay. Jeez. Luckily my kid has Kaiser thru his work

 

from what i can see obumpercare mandate is making my cost for 2017 somewhere around $3800 per month if i was to pay for it.

 

Sounds like it's cheaper to pay the fine for being uninsured.

 

My BIL's late brother never carried health insurance...even though his employer had a great plan that was reasonably priced. He used the local ER as his families PCP and worked out payment arrangements with them. It's a public hospital and can't refuse treatment despite ability or willingness to pay.

 

Geez guys, that's just crazy!! Luckily, very lucky that is, part of my retirement package was health care. I hate to even mention my monthly cost, after what you guys said.
I'm pretty ignorant as to why costs have soared like that, I have my own thoughts, but they're very negative. I'm sure greed plays in there as well, and also possibly the cost of malpractice insurance.

 

John, the main reason health insurance is through the roof is because of obumpercare.

obumpercare states that everyone MUST and if you are on welfare the people that work for a living will pay for it.

and seeing as there are more people on welfare than are working these days, the workers have to pay more to cover for the non workers.

 

Any links to support that Tom???

 

support what ken, the who pays, or the amount on welfare?

i said the amount sorta as a joke, i don't think it is actually there YET.
probably closer to 70% paying for 30% moochers.
depending on where you look, you can pull numbers from 35% welfare in 2012 up to 60%, but the 60% number is misleading because it also counts the working poor that receive government help of some sort.
and i don't trust sites that like to mislead people

 

The more collecting rather than working. My research supports your last post as opposed to your other post.


The 35.4 Percent: 109,631,000 on Welfare

 

yea, that 35.4% number was from 2012.
but like i say it includes the working poor.
and a lot of the working poor around here at least only receive food stamps and housing assistance but pay for their own insurance

 

"Working poor" is how each and every administration keeps the unemployment number down. There are way too many people who fall into that category. I'm thankful that when I was fired 2 1/2 years ago...I had plenty on savings to live on until I decide to collect SS.

 

the other trick they use to keep unemployment numbers down is to only count the people collecting or actively looking for work through the state program. they do not count the people that gave up.

here in joisey they claim 6.5% but the true number is closer to 20%