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Old 10-29-2016, 04:50 PM
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1948 ford f-6 226 flathead cracked Exhaust Manifold

I have a cracked Exhaust Manifold, near the base where it attaches to the exhaust pipe.
I had tightened it too tight and it was corroded.

Where can an exhaust and intake manifold be found. I can't find them. The older posts links are no longer valid.
I thought I might replace both. But desperately need an exhaust manifold.

It's a 226 flat 6, one side manifold.




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Old 10-29-2016, 05:09 PM
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8MTH-9426 .. Exhaust Manifold / Obsolete ~ No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

1948/51 F1/F6 226 I-6 / 1950/52 F4/F6 & 1953 F500/600 254 I-6.

Note: F3/F5 Parcel Delivery and COE (Cab Over Engine) use a different exhaust manifold as do 1949/51 Ford cars.
 
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Old 10-29-2016, 05:32 PM
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Finding one of those is like finding a hen's tooth. One hit eBay last night and by this morning it was sold.

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Originally Posted by 3twinridges
Finding one of those is like finding a hen's tooth. One hit eBay last night and by this morning it was sold.

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I don't understand why though. Almost everything is re-mfg now, either here or over in China. Almost everything is available, but of course these.


I can try to have it fixed?
 
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chrislynn5
I don't understand why though. Almost everything is re-mfg now, either here or over in China. Almost everything is available, but of course these.
It costs 10's of 1000's of dollars to reproduce a single part, but if there's next to no demand, no one is going to bother.

About 25 years ago, one of the Packard clubs had 1932/39 V12 iron heads reproduced, are still trying to recoup the cost.

Many of these cars came with aluminum heads, attempting to remove them is a PITA, some people use an ax!

So replacement iron heads have been hard to find for decades, but there just hasn't been enough demand.

And btw: The 215/223 OHV I-6 exhaust manifold is very prone to cracking, the same manifold is used on 1952/64 cars and trucks.

There are far more vehicles existing with these engines than there are with 226/254 L-heads. No one reproduces it, none are available NOS, finding a user that isn't cracked is almost impossible.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
It costs 10's of 1000's of dollars to reproduce a single part, but if there's next to no demand, no one is going to bother.

About 25 years ago, one of the Packard clubs had 1932/39 V12 iron heads reproduced, are still trying to recoup the cost.

Many of these cars came with aluminum heads, attempting to remove them is a PITA, some people use an ax!

So replacement iron heads have been hard to find for decades, but there just hasn't been enough demand.

And btw: The 215/223 OHV I-6 exhaust manifold is very prone to cracking, the same manifold is used on 1952/64 cars and trucks.

There are far more vehicles existing with these engines than there are with 226/254 L-heads. No one reproduces it, none are available NOS, finding a user that isn't cracked is almost impossible.
The 215 manifold id NOT the same as the 223 manifold. will they fit? Yes, are they the same? no. One has a straight down dump and the other has a 45 angle dump.
 
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:57 PM
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The 215 manifold is NOT the same as the 223 manifold. will they fit? Yes, are they the same? no. One has a straight down dump and the other has a 45 angle dump.
In 1963, Ford replaced the part numbers of the 215 and 223 manifolds with this: C3AZ-9426-A
 
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In 1963, Ford replaced the part numbers of the 215 and 223 manifolds with this: C3AZ-9426-A
I don't care what ford did, A 215 manifold will not allow you to connect to a 223 head pipe and a 223 manifold will not allow you to connect to a 215 head pipe. Just the facts, you might want to put a little note in the 1963 parts book
 
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Chrislynn5, I bought two donor 226 engines trying to find a good exhaust manifold. (my original on the '49 was snapped completely off at the flange)
The first donor engine looked great - FROM THE FRONT - but when I removed the manifold pair, it had a huge crack in the back. It would have been impossible to see because of the way those things are mounted with the valve plates obscuring the view, and the dark crusty color of the steel. So basically I paid $800 for a decent oil pan, flywheel, water pump and some other trinkets. The rest of the engine was used-up. I thought I could get a lot of parts from it but it didn't pan out. The next donor engine cost me $300 but it had a fair condition manifold, a nice carb and more trinkets I could use some day. I'm sure the manifold is weak since it is pretty badly pitted but it has no obvious cracks.
I'm sharing this to anyone who is looking for a manifold. If it's still on the engine....try to remove it first so you can see the back side. I heard that welding cracks as a permanent fix on these is nearly impossible.
Good luck, hopefully a member here who has a good extra one will contact you.
And as long as we are talking 226 hard-to-find parts I have an extra water pump in good shape if anyone needs one. And no, I won't charge $800 for it. I've accepted my losses on that deal.

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Chris, I think there is a decent looking 226 in Charlotte on Craigslist. I saw it the other day.

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A competent welder could probably fix it, depending on the break. Brazing seems to work best. I have seen several brazed ones over the years still in use.

I welded one on my old farm truck with nickel rod....not pretty, but still holding after a few years.
 
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Originally Posted by 3twinridges
Chris, I think there is a decent looking 226 in Charlotte on Craigslist. I saw it the other day.

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I searched for it, no luck. Do you have a link? Thanx.
 
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:21 PM
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Look around, you will find one. Part of the challenge / fun with a 226 is finding parts. Be careful when torquing any engine stuff or really anything 65 years old and follow the torque guidelines in the manual. It's easy to get carried away and snap something off or crack something. My dad does it all the fime LOL....

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Check the welding section of the "smokstak" forum. Write up & photos there may give you some hope & ideas.
 
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Originally Posted by 3twinridges
Look around, you will find one. Part of the challenge / fun with a 226 is finding parts. Be careful when torquing any engine stuff or really anything 65 years old and follow the torque guidelines in the manual. It's easy to get carried away and snap something off or crack something. My dad does it all the fime LOL....

JB
Yep, that's what I did. The fun would be driving it. Winter is upon us, maybe, it's 86 tomorrow here in Atlanta.
 


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