Running off road diesel?
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Where do you live? I have a 70gal in my truck and never stopped. I've driven all over the south and even a big trip from Alabama to Washington so I hit alot of midwest states. Although my tank doesn't stick above the bed rails and I'm not sure if other vehicles can see it while driving.
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Where do you live? I have a 70gal in my truck and never stopped. I've driven all over the south and even a big trip from Alabama to Washington so I hit alot of midwest states. Although my tank doesn't stick above the bed rails and I'm not sure if other vehicles can see it while driving.
I personally don't run it for the legality. For what it's worth, after Katrina hit the south and fuel was tougher to come by, Ford put out a bulletin that it was OK to run off-road dyed fuel in the Powerstroke. My father was down there as a mechanic for a rescue support team. I'll ask if he has any documentation to back it up.
Also I have friends that run it in both their 7.3 & 6.0s with no issues. The biggest concern is filtration and water content from the supplier. I haul my own home heating oil (same thing) and notice that stations tend to neglect the filter at those off-road pumps around here. I've seen some even bypass the filter. Beware and stay away from those.
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I would exercise caution on a tank that didn't have a large turn over... it sits and gathers condensation. My old man ran it for years, no issues in any Ford or Chevy he ran... other than its pink.
I've read the guys making bio in there back yard are also faced with the same issue... not paying the road tax and when dipped... fined BIG $$$
I've read the guys making bio in there back yard are also faced with the same issue... not paying the road tax and when dipped... fined BIG $$$
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Where do you live? I have a 70gal in my truck and never stopped. I've driven all over the south and even a big trip from Alabama to Washington so I hit alot of midwest states. Although my tank doesn't stick above the bed rails and I'm not sure if other vehicles can see it while driving.
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I had a friend that use to run it all the time in his truck. Lived in Leesburg, Ga. Small town, mostly agricultural. Filled his truck and got about a mile down the road and was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle. The first question he was asked was if he was a farmer, which he wasn't. The next question was have you ever ran off-road fuel in your vehicle to which he replied not that I know of. A sample was pulled from his tank and it was off-road fuel. A tow truck took the truck to the dealer and all the fuel was removed even down to taking off the injector rails. By the time he finished paying the fuel removal charge and the fines he had paid a little over six thousand dollars. The EPA guys that pulled him over were watching the station from a distance with a pair of binoculars. I wouldn't risk it.
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Our tax dollars at work
If you're interested, here's another thread to read, I liked post #213.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rience-15.html
If you're interested, here's another thread to read, I liked post #213.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rience-15.html
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I had a friend that use to run it all the time in his truck. Lived in Leesburg, Ga. Small town, mostly agricultural. Filled his truck and got about a mile down the road and was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle. The first question he was asked was if he was a farmer, which he wasn't. The next question was have you ever ran off-road fuel in your vehicle to which he replied not that I know of. A sample was pulled from his tank and it was off-road fuel. A tow truck took the truck to the dealer and all the fuel was removed even down to taking off the injector rails. By the time he finished paying the fuel removal charge and the fines he had paid a little over six thousand dollars. The EPA guys that pulled him over were watching the station from a distance with a pair of binoculars. I wouldn't risk it.
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I heard the fine for having it in the main tank is $1000/ gallon. So, if they catch you leaving the station, at least on my truck, could be up to 38,000$ fine. Ouch.
However there are stations that sell "off road fuel" but it comes out of the same pump as the on road fuel. So then it's pretty much impossible to get caught. Not that I'm suggesting anyone try to skirt the tax. But it is .24$ gal FYI
However there are stations that sell "off road fuel" but it comes out of the same pump as the on road fuel. So then it's pretty much impossible to get caught. Not that I'm suggesting anyone try to skirt the tax. But it is .24$ gal FYI
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I had a friend that use to run it all the time in his truck. Lived in Leesburg, Ga. Small town, mostly agricultural. Filled his truck and got about a mile down the road and was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle. The first question he was asked was if he was a farmer, which he wasn't. The next question was have you ever ran off-road fuel in your vehicle to which he replied not that I know of. A sample was pulled from his tank and it was off-road fuel. A tow truck took the truck to the dealer and all the fuel was removed even down to taking off the injector rails. By the time he finished paying the fuel removal charge and the fines he had paid a little over six thousand dollars. The EPA guys that pulled him over were watching the station from a distance with a pair of binoculars. I wouldn't risk it.
Sorry I don't believe your story for a minute. They don't make you remove the fuel, all they do is fine you. Also the EPA guys don't watch with binoculars from a distance either This is coming from somebody that running "off-road" diesel who got caught. It's as simple as a fine based on how much you have in your tank. Just so that everybody is clear, there isn't any difference anymore between "offroad" and "onroad" diesel anymore except the color. The EPA mandated years back that everything was ULSD, and the only thing that isn't that is heating oil. So no running "off-road" diesel in your truck isn't going to hurt it or do anything different that the onroad will. Before the USA made the switch there was a higher sulfur content which made for better lubrication for diesel engines.
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I contemplated throwing some in my tank in the bed that drains into the main tank when I got fuel tonight. I chickened out and spent the extra 30 cents a gallon. The truck doesn't see much use off the farm is why I thought about it. Question though, if I filled up once and used the tank of fuel up on the farm, when I filled up again with on road diesel there would be no trace, correct?