Best Tire Needed for SRW Fifth Wheel Towing
#16
10-13-2016, 06:34 AM
They wear out so fast because the trailer's we pull are heavy. I bet I would get 80k out of my goodyear TA's if I wasn't towing such a heavy trailer.
#17
10-13-2016, 06:37 AM
This is true. I've had both the options Ford is shipping the 17's with on my current truck. Michelin LTX AT2 came from Ford and then I went to GY Wrangler AT Adventure. Both wore VERY quickly as I tow heavy in the summer and plow from time to time in the winter. Lots of weight front and back for more than half my miles.
#18
10-13-2016, 06:39 AM
I'm not as far over my payload rating as the many 3/4 ton truck owners that I see rolling down the road with these triple axle toy haulers in tow. 90% of the trucks I see pulling these are 3/4 tons. My only concern is my tires. I'm right at their limit. That's why I wouldn't mind finding a stronger tire.
#19
10-13-2016, 08:55 AM
No toys in the garage, but it's usually loaded with everyone's gear. I run 75 psi on front truck tires, somewhere around 78 on the drive axle and trailer tires.
The truck handles the trailer quite easily, and with a 3rd axle on the trailer I get good braking. I'm looking forward to the exhaust brake on the 17 though.
The truck has an H&S mini max on it that gives it a crazy amount of power, but the truck was plenty powerful enough before the tuning.
Also, I run with Firestone air springs in the back to level it out.
The truck handles the trailer quite easily, and with a 3rd axle on the trailer I get good braking. I'm looking forward to the exhaust brake on the 17 though.
The truck has an H&S mini max on it that gives it a crazy amount of power, but the truck was plenty powerful enough before the tuning.
Also, I run with Firestone air springs in the back to level it out.
He needs to find a CAT scale and get the baseline for his truck..
#20
10-13-2016, 09:48 AM
That may be one of the reasons that your pin weight is higher than it should be. Toy haulers are built with the axles moved further to the rear, thereby allowing them to support a few thousand pounds sitting in the garage. Empty garage - no counter-balancing weight to lighten the pin...
This is what I was thinking too..
He needs to find a CAT scale and get the baseline for his truck..
This is what I was thinking too..
He needs to find a CAT scale and get the baseline for his truck..
My drive axle weighed in at 7200lbs when I weighed the truck and trailer. You guys are right, I have to weigh the truck without the trailer, but how much could the back end of that empty truck bed actually weigh? I shall see.
#21
10-13-2016, 10:13 AM
As expensive as 20" tires are, I would steer clear of tires that only last 25,000 miles. That's a joke.
I have Goodyear TA's on my 08 F350 and I pull a 43' Road Warrior toy hauler with over 6000lbs of pin weight. The Goodyears are rated at 3750lbs and have held up well. 65,000 miles on them so far, but they are nearing the end (one of many reasons why I ordered a 17).
My plan is to run the Michelin's until it's time to get new tires. I was toying with the idea of purchasing a second set of tires and rims to use Just when towing the fiver. But that's just a thought at this point.
You said the Michelin's gave you some trouble, what was it? The michelin's I had prior to these GR's contributed to a death wobble issue on my 08. They seemed to have a weak side wall.
I have Goodyear TA's on my 08 F350 and I pull a 43' Road Warrior toy hauler with over 6000lbs of pin weight. The Goodyears are rated at 3750lbs and have held up well. 65,000 miles on them so far, but they are nearing the end (one of many reasons why I ordered a 17).
My plan is to run the Michelin's until it's time to get new tires. I was toying with the idea of purchasing a second set of tires and rims to use Just when towing the fiver. But that's just a thought at this point.
You said the Michelin's gave you some trouble, what was it? The michelin's I had prior to these GR's contributed to a death wobble issue on my 08. They seemed to have a weak side wall.
#22
10-13-2016, 10:38 AM
My BFG KO2s (which is supposed to be improved over the KOs) seemed like half the tire was gone after about 8k, then they seem to harden up and don't wear as bad. I know when I trade my truck in I'm going to hear about the tires. I hope to do some bargaining to give them the Michelins back to put on the old truck.
#23
10-13-2016, 10:44 AM
My BFG KO2s (which is supposed to be improved over the KOs) seemed like half the tire was gone after about 8k, then they seem to harden up and don't wear as bad. I know when I trade my truck in I'm going to hear about the tires. I hope to do some bargaining to give them the Michelins back to put on the old truck.
#24
10-13-2016, 10:54 AM
My BFG KO2s (which is supposed to be improved over the KOs) seemed like half the tire was gone after about 8k, then they seem to harden up and don't wear as bad. I know when I trade my truck in I'm going to hear about the tires. I hope to do some bargaining to give them the Michelins back to put on the old truck.
#25
10-13-2016, 11:25 AM
On a 43' trailer there is very few places where you could put the axles to relieve pin weight but still properly support the trailer, especially on a TH. You can only move the axles forward so far.
My drive axle weighed in at 7200lbs when I weighed the truck and trailer. You guys are right, I have to weigh the truck without the trailer, but how much could the back end of that empty truck bed actually weigh? I shall see.
My drive axle weighed in at 7200lbs when I weighed the truck and trailer. You guys are right, I have to weigh the truck without the trailer, but how much could the back end of that empty truck bed actually weigh? I shall see.
My TH axles are very forward and even when my RV is over 20k, I only have about 2700# pin. That said, I still think your drive axle is 3500# unloaded like mine. Maybe a hair more being a long bed.
#26
10-13-2016, 02:53 PM
But the number I always keep a close eye on is the total drive axle value. I weighed in at 7200lbs with the trailer hooked up and minimal gear in the truck bed. That's within 300lbs of what my rear tires are rated to handle.
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10-13-2016, 03:00 PM
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#28
10-13-2016, 03:13 PM
I was way off, total brain spasm on my part because at one time I knew these figures. I just weighed my truck and it came in at 3540 on the drive axle, which leaves me with 3660lbs of trailer pin weight.
But the number I always keep a close eye on is the total drive axle value. I weighed in at 7200lbs with the trailer hooked up and minimal gear in the truck bed. That's within 300lbs of what my rear tires are rated to handle.
But the number I always keep a close eye on is the total drive axle value. I weighed in at 7200lbs with the trailer hooked up and minimal gear in the truck bed. That's within 300lbs of what my rear tires are rated to handle.
This was one of my CAT scale slips
Remember that your steer axle weight will also go up with that load in the bed...
#29
10-13-2016, 03:22 PM
Steer is dependent on hitch position in the bed as well as load in the garage on mine Randy. I have mine in the more rear position and my steer actually goes down by 140 when hooked up with the garage empty. However, when I put 2k in the garage, my truck sets a little more level with less pin and therefor the steer stays exactly the same. Mine never goes up but I'm guessing if I reversed my hitch, moving my pin forward 1.5", it might.
#30
10-13-2016, 03:30 PM
