My "new" truck
#46
TA - Do you think every Camper Special had the brake light relay? I was told it was part of the mythical trailer towing package on mine. My Merc also had the transistorized ignition which used a ceramic ballast resistor - no pink resistor wire to the coil, but a dark blue one - and a "T" stamped on the engine tag to indicate that equipment. Also the "blink marker" momentary switch I have mentioned before.
Eric
Eric
#47
All tail lamp harnesses I've seen have had the location for the feed wire to plug into, because that harness did not vary. Both of my 4WD trucks have the center feed port in the tail lamp harness as does my 2WD. Some trucks used that for the rear license plate lamps to feed from.
Besides the harness in the glove box the intermediate harness is also different to allow the relay above to be plugged into. You already know about the relay, you just need to consider what the relay plugged into. At least in some cases they seem to be using a different harness in 1966. Not sure about 1965, but the MPC lists the numbers that I gave above.
If I understood Eric - his 1966 Mercury sounds like it has the relay as well.
Nothin' to lose any sleep over, but I find it interesting.
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Besides the harness in the glove box the intermediate harness is also different to allow the relay above to be plugged into. You already know about the relay, you just need to consider what the relay plugged into. At least in some cases they seem to be using a different harness in 1966. Not sure about 1965, but the MPC lists the numbers that I gave above.
If I understood Eric - his 1966 Mercury sounds like it has the relay as well.
Nothin' to lose any sleep over, but I find it interesting.
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Are you saying the 4 pin plug might be back in the rear of the truck?
EDIT: I went out to look. Not a good idea for my back, as getting on the creeper was easier than getting off it.
On the driver side frame near the back, I have 2 each 2-pin connectors, but I can't find a 4-pin anywhere in the back or near the master cylinder. I guess it's not a Camper Special.
The truck has receiver hitches in the back and the front. A jury-rigged connector is hung with baling wire near the rear hitch. From what I'm learning here, if that was a factory plug, it would likely be running to a 4 pin connector somewhere. I don't understand why there is a relay in the lighting circuit for a Camper Special.
Can anyone tell me why it has a receiver hitch in the front?
#48
TA - Do you think every Camper Special had the brake light relay? I was told it was part of the mythical trailer towing package on mine. My Merc also had the transistorized ignition which used a ceramic ballast resistor - no pink resistor wire to the coil, but a dark blue one - and a "T" stamped on the engine tag to indicate that equipment. Also the "blink marker" momentary switch I have mentioned before.
Eric
Eric
If you have the MPC the relay is also called out under base number 13482. Again it refers to
65/67 F100/F350 - with Camper Coach or Trailer Coach.
So many questions - so little time.
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#49
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post9367577
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#51
The plug is near the master cylinder under the hood on my truck. Obviously it was not used on all Camper Specials. Read this post from ND. He says it was only dealer installed if you read it closely. Could be. I wonder what would make a dealer install it on one Camper Special but not another, in these first years? Mysteries.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post9367577
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post9367577
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Thanks for the old link. I've learned a lot about what was original on Ford trucks from Bill (ND). I know I have a whole world more to learn on this new truck.
My wiring diagram should be here soon. Then I hope to sort out all the "extra" wires run every which way in my truck. All I really want to do is make everything work first. I have headlights, taillights, turn signals, emergency flasher. Don't know about brights, as the switch is stomped in and stuck. No horn, no wipers (no rain in CA) no washer, no radio. Heck, I don't even know where the fuse panel is yet. Maybe I should also order an Owners Manual...
Anyway, I have ordered the 3-volume Shop Manual, the HiPo Parts CD, a few miscellaneous parts from LMC, which are probably all Chinese. I can't lock or unlock the drivers door with a key, so I have to lock from the inside and slide out the right. I've been doing that for 5 years in my F4. So the door/ignition key/lock set is ordered along with the hi-beam switch.
When the PO installed the newer model "bolt-right-in" power steering, he didn't shorten the steering shaft, so the wheel sticks out from the column about an inch. The horn will never work like that. Anyone have recommendations on how to shorten the shaft correctly? Should I start a new thread?
Thanks for all your help guys. I wondered if the crowd here would be as cool as the 48 -56 forum crowd. Now I know you are. This simple introductory thread already has about 50 posts in it.
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When the PO installed the newer model "bolt-right-in" power steering, he didn't shorten the steering shaft, so the wheel sticks out from the column about an inch. The horn will never work like that. Anyone have recommendations on how to shorten the shaft correctly? Should I start a new thread?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-65-f100.html
that the length difference between the P/S and non-P/S steering shaft is 1.3". Anyone know where I might find the shorter P/S shaft C6TZ-3524-M .. Steering Shaft ~ 34 5/16" long? Or is it possible to shorten this longer non-P/S shaft?
#55
Are you installing a Bendix gear? If so, I wonder why because it was not available in '65 and it is expensive and troublesome compared to the commonly-swapped Ford gear of late '69-up. If you are using a Bendix, you will find adequate adjustment at the dash hanger. You do not need a ps column. However, if you are using the later gear your column must be shortened. It is not too complicated, especially with a floor-shift column like yours.
Eric
Eric
#56
Are you installing a Bendix gear? If so, I wonder why because it was not available in '65 and it is expensive and troublesome compared to the commonly-swapped Ford gear of late '69-up. If you are using a Bendix, you will find adequate adjustment at the dash hanger. You do not need a ps column. However, if you are using the later gear your column must be shortened. It is not too complicated, especially with a floor-shift column like yours.
Eric
Eric
Can I cut an inch out of it and re-weld it, or is this something for a drive shaft shop to do?
#57
An inch seems like a very big error by the original installer. Is all well at the rag joint? If so, measure everything accurately, remove the column and get a steering shop to fix it. It will (should) not be expensive. If it is you are at the wrong shop or I am wrong. If it is the latter, I apologize in advance.
Eric
Eric
#58
An inch seems like a very big error by the original installer. Is all well at the rag joint? If so, measure everything accurately, remove the column and get a steering shop to fix it. It will (should) not be expensive. If it is you are at the wrong shop or I am wrong. If it is the latter, I apologize in advance.
Eric
Eric
I measured it this morning, it's 7/8" too long. I think I'm going to wait to do anything on this until I get the Shop Manuals and Parts CD so I have references.
Between the rag joint and the steering shaft there's a shaft maybe 6 inches long. I wonder if I could just shorten that piece and make everything work.
#59
Here's a pic of the rag joint and the shaft above it.
Is it possible to remove those parts and shorten the shaft on the rag joint by an inch to correct my problem of the wheel being 7/8" away from the steering column? Would that pull the steering wheel down? Maybe it's p/n 3524 in this diagram?
EDIT: Oh, I see now the whole shaft is labeled 3524. Oh well.
Is it possible to remove those parts and shorten the shaft on the rag joint by an inch to correct my problem of the wheel being 7/8" away from the steering column? Would that pull the steering wheel down? Maybe it's p/n 3524 in this diagram?
EDIT: Oh, I see now the whole shaft is labeled 3524. Oh well.
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