10 Speed Transmission
#1
10 Speed Transmission
Looking to buy my first truck this Fall and hoping to get a figure on the hwy gas mileage the new transmission will give with the Ecoboost vs. taking advantage of incentives on a 2016
Anyone know when the EPA figures may be out or care to take a guess what the increase will be?
I have a 44 mile hwy commute everyday and that could possibly get longer in the not too distant future and doubt gas will stay this low much longer so it's a prime consideration for me.
Anyone know when the EPA figures may be out or care to take a guess what the increase will be?
I have a 44 mile hwy commute everyday and that could possibly get longer in the not too distant future and doubt gas will stay this low much longer so it's a prime consideration for me.
#2
If you're looking specifically at mileage on an F-150, then I would go with the 2.7L EB, or the 3.5L NA. The 10-speed will possibly net out 1 more MPG than the 6-speed IMO.
With the 6-speed, I get consistently ~~ 20-21 MPG on the highway. Not so good around town or in the hills. (with the 3.5L EB)
With the 6-speed, I get consistently ~~ 20-21 MPG on the highway. Not so good around town or in the hills. (with the 3.5L EB)
#3
Actually, the 10-speed will make very little different to you. 6th gear on a 2016 is 0.69:1. 10th gear on a 2017 will be 0.64:1. And then you have the debate of whether less RPM is actually better. If your commute is all highway, assuming traffic isn't bad, you'll spend the vast majority of the time in the top gear.
The 10-speed really gives you two advantages - better towing performance, and better efficiency around town, running up and down through the gears.
Assuming 100,000 miles of driving at $2.50/gal, you're looking at a total fuel spend of $16,666.67 at 15MPG and $15,625.00 at 16MPG. If you really pick up a full 1 MPG, you'll basically save $1K in 100K miles. And that's assuming you really realize that much improvement.
The 10-speed really gives you two advantages - better towing performance, and better efficiency around town, running up and down through the gears.
Assuming 100,000 miles of driving at $2.50/gal, you're looking at a total fuel spend of $16,666.67 at 15MPG and $15,625.00 at 16MPG. If you really pick up a full 1 MPG, you'll basically save $1K in 100K miles. And that's assuming you really realize that much improvement.
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#6
Same situation as the OP. Kind of waiting to see initial thoughts on new motor and 10sp. If not a huge difference in fuel eco, power, etc., may try and pick up a 16 at a good price. I'm in no hurry.
Or grab a nice used 15-16 someone dumps because they have to have a 17.
Looking for low end torque, hate how current rig downshifts constantly in hills.
Or grab a nice used 15-16 someone dumps because they have to have a 17.
Looking for low end torque, hate how current rig downshifts constantly in hills.
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#10
Actually, the 10-speed will make very little different to you. 6th gear on a 2016 is 0.69:1. 10th gear on a 2017 will be 0.64:1. And then you have the debate of whether less RPM is actually better. If your commute is all highway, assuming traffic isn't bad, you'll spend the vast majority of the time in the top gear.
The 10-speed really gives you two advantages - better towing performance, and better efficiency around town, running up and down through the gears.
Assuming 100,000 miles of driving at $2.50/gal, you're looking at a total fuel spend of $16,666.67 at 15MPG and $15,625.00 at 16MPG. If you really pick up a full 1 MPG, you'll basically save $1K in 100K miles. And that's assuming you really realize that much improvement.
The 10-speed really gives you two advantages - better towing performance, and better efficiency around town, running up and down through the gears.
Assuming 100,000 miles of driving at $2.50/gal, you're looking at a total fuel spend of $16,666.67 at 15MPG and $15,625.00 at 16MPG. If you really pick up a full 1 MPG, you'll basically save $1K in 100K miles. And that's assuming you really realize that much improvement.
Your example is a good one and puts things in perspective. I was assuming based on earlier reading this past Spring we were looking at 2 if not maybe even 3 more miles per gallon and that would get my attention.
Down the road I wonder if resale would still pay for it despite the incentives on the this years model?
You guys do think it will be a better driving experience for open hwy and around town driving? Towing is last on my list as getting a boat while a strong chance will likely never involve long hauls or hills where I live and fish.
What about the rear end? 3.55 or 3.31 as a mix of driving experience ( hwy and around town ) and gas milage---how do they compare? I'm pretty set on the 3.5 EB I imagine the 3.5 with either gear would pull a bass boat with ease.
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As for the ranger, is it based on the global ranger, or a "mini" F150? I haven't heard any reliable reports of this one.
#13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratorq_engine This seems to illustrate the history on the "Panther" diesel that may be coming.
#15
Your example is a good one and puts things in perspective. I was assuming based on earlier reading this past Spring we were looking at 2 if not maybe even 3 more miles per gallon and that would get my attention.
Down the road I wonder if resale would still pay for it despite the incentives on the this years model?
You guys do think it will be a better driving experience for open hwy and around town driving? Towing is last on my list as getting a boat while a strong chance will likely never involve long hauls or hills where I live and fish.
What about the rear end? 3.55 or 3.31 as a mix of driving experience ( hwy and around town ) and gas milage---how do they compare? I'm pretty set on the 3.5 EB I imagine the 3.5 with either gear would pull a bass boat with ease.
Down the road I wonder if resale would still pay for it despite the incentives on the this years model?
You guys do think it will be a better driving experience for open hwy and around town driving? Towing is last on my list as getting a boat while a strong chance will likely never involve long hauls or hills where I live and fish.
What about the rear end? 3.55 or 3.31 as a mix of driving experience ( hwy and around town ) and gas milage---how do they compare? I'm pretty set on the 3.5 EB I imagine the 3.5 with either gear would pull a bass boat with ease.