Advantages of a Superduty over OBS?
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Advantages of a Superduty over OBS?
I've been searching for a used old body F250 with a 7.3, but finding one in crew cab with a straight body seems pretty difficult. I am tempted to widen my search to the newer style even though the older body looks way better IMHO. I've done some searching and found DIFFERENCES in the two, but are they better? Different turbo (wastegated), split injectors, electric pump, etc. But longevity and build quality are my main concerns. Am I better off just toughing it out looking for the OBS I want or will a 99-02 serve me just as well?
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~25 hp correct? Better ride would always be nice, but would you consider this a debatable point or sort of a widely accepted fact? I can't complain about any of the OBS I've ridden in and can't tell much difference between them and my father in laws 06 6.0 CC. Could be more apparent if I drove them back to back though.
IC and wastegate but smaller turbo? And when you say efuel, meaning electronic fuel pump?
IC and wastegate but smaller turbo? And when you say efuel, meaning electronic fuel pump?
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Also, your diff cover is sick. Did you paint it yourself?
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Don't take my word 100% on this but from what I read I'll say some differences.
Differences between SD and OBS:
- Turbo wheel. Many people switch the SD turbo wheel to the OBS one so I think OBS wins here
- Intercooler. SD has the intercooler which of course is nice especially for towing, but I have read it's not necessary if you don't plan on towing big. SD wins here.
- Electric fuel pump. SD has an electric fuel pump which I read is more efficient at pumping fuel than the OBS mechanical one, so the SD wins here.
- Injectors. SD has the split shot injectors I believe while I am under the impression that most OBS have single shot injectors. I could be way wrong on that though. I read that the split shot injectors have the potential for more power than split shots as well. If that'ts the case then OBS ones might be a little better. Either way, a high mileage 7.3 will probably require some injector refreshing if it hasn't had it before.
There are then of course differences in looks, both interior and exterior. The SD probably has more luxury type options and a little nicer ride. However, both trucks are getting up there in age now, and are probably going to be comparable to comfort and condition as well.
I do like the SD looks, but I think the OBS looks much better. If I were in your position and wasn't rushed, I'd wait and look around for an OBS.
Edit: When it comes to a longevity standpoint, I think BOTH are going to be pretty much equal. It all will depend on the maintenance of the vehicle before. Engine and transmission wise, both should be near identical in maintenance and longevity. I'd say the same goes for the body and interior as well. My friend's dad has a 99 SD 7.3 that is in worse shape cosmetically than mine both with the interior and exterior. HOWEVER, I have spent tremendous amount of time and effort cleaning my truck and have replaced and upgraded things along the way (headliner and door panels etc.). I think any powerstroke 7.3 truck will be comparable in longevity/power/comfort whether it's an OBS or SD. It's going to be all about how the truck was maintained and treated that will make the biggest difference.
Differences between SD and OBS:
- Turbo wheel. Many people switch the SD turbo wheel to the OBS one so I think OBS wins here
- Intercooler. SD has the intercooler which of course is nice especially for towing, but I have read it's not necessary if you don't plan on towing big. SD wins here.
- Electric fuel pump. SD has an electric fuel pump which I read is more efficient at pumping fuel than the OBS mechanical one, so the SD wins here.
- Injectors. SD has the split shot injectors I believe while I am under the impression that most OBS have single shot injectors. I could be way wrong on that though. I read that the split shot injectors have the potential for more power than split shots as well. If that'ts the case then OBS ones might be a little better. Either way, a high mileage 7.3 will probably require some injector refreshing if it hasn't had it before.
There are then of course differences in looks, both interior and exterior. The SD probably has more luxury type options and a little nicer ride. However, both trucks are getting up there in age now, and are probably going to be comparable to comfort and condition as well.
I do like the SD looks, but I think the OBS looks much better. If I were in your position and wasn't rushed, I'd wait and look around for an OBS.
Edit: When it comes to a longevity standpoint, I think BOTH are going to be pretty much equal. It all will depend on the maintenance of the vehicle before. Engine and transmission wise, both should be near identical in maintenance and longevity. I'd say the same goes for the body and interior as well. My friend's dad has a 99 SD 7.3 that is in worse shape cosmetically than mine both with the interior and exterior. HOWEVER, I have spent tremendous amount of time and effort cleaning my truck and have replaced and upgraded things along the way (headliner and door panels etc.). I think any powerstroke 7.3 truck will be comparable in longevity/power/comfort whether it's an OBS or SD. It's going to be all about how the truck was maintained and treated that will make the biggest difference.
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Don't take my word 100% on this but from what I read I'll say some differences.
Differences between SD and OBS:
- Turbo wheel. Many people switch the SD turbo wheel to the OBS one so I think OBS wins here
- Intercooler. SD has the intercooler which of course is nice especially for towing, but I have read it's not necessary if you don't plan on towing big. SD wins here.
- Electric fuel pump. SD has an electric fuel pump which I read is more efficient at pumping fuel than the OBS mechanical one, so the SD wins here.
- Injectors. SD has the split shot injectors I believe while I am under the impression that most OBS have single shot injectors. I could be way wrong on that though. I read that the split shot injectors have the potential for more power than split shots as well. If that'ts the case then OBS ones might be a little better. Either way, a high mileage 7.3 will probably require some injector refreshing if it hasn't had it before.
There are then of course differences in looks, both interior and exterior. The SD probably has more luxury type options and a little nicer ride. However, both trucks are getting up there in age now, and are probably going to be comparable to comfort and condition as well.
I do like the SD looks, but I think the OBS looks much better. If I were in your position and wasn't rushed, I'd wait and look around for an OBS.
Edit: When it comes to a longevity standpoint, I think BOTH are going to be pretty much equal. It all will depend on the maintenance of the vehicle before. Engine and transmission wise, both should be near identical in maintenance and longevity. I'd say the same goes for the body and interior as well. My friend's dad has a 99 SD 7.3 that is in worse shape cosmetically than mine both with the interior and exterior. HOWEVER, I have spent tremendous amount of time and effort cleaning my truck and have replaced and upgraded things along the way (headliner and door panels etc.). I think any powerstroke 7.3 truck will be comparable in longevity/power/comfort whether it's an OBS or SD. It's going to be all about how the truck was maintained and treated that will make the biggest difference.
Differences between SD and OBS:
- Turbo wheel. Many people switch the SD turbo wheel to the OBS one so I think OBS wins here
- Intercooler. SD has the intercooler which of course is nice especially for towing, but I have read it's not necessary if you don't plan on towing big. SD wins here.
- Electric fuel pump. SD has an electric fuel pump which I read is more efficient at pumping fuel than the OBS mechanical one, so the SD wins here.
- Injectors. SD has the split shot injectors I believe while I am under the impression that most OBS have single shot injectors. I could be way wrong on that though. I read that the split shot injectors have the potential for more power than split shots as well. If that'ts the case then OBS ones might be a little better. Either way, a high mileage 7.3 will probably require some injector refreshing if it hasn't had it before.
There are then of course differences in looks, both interior and exterior. The SD probably has more luxury type options and a little nicer ride. However, both trucks are getting up there in age now, and are probably going to be comparable to comfort and condition as well.
I do like the SD looks, but I think the OBS looks much better. If I were in your position and wasn't rushed, I'd wait and look around for an OBS.
Edit: When it comes to a longevity standpoint, I think BOTH are going to be pretty much equal. It all will depend on the maintenance of the vehicle before. Engine and transmission wise, both should be near identical in maintenance and longevity. I'd say the same goes for the body and interior as well. My friend's dad has a 99 SD 7.3 that is in worse shape cosmetically than mine both with the interior and exterior. HOWEVER, I have spent tremendous amount of time and effort cleaning my truck and have replaced and upgraded things along the way (headliner and door panels etc.). I think any powerstroke 7.3 truck will be comparable in longevity/power/comfort whether it's an OBS or SD. It's going to be all about how the truck was maintained and treated that will make the biggest difference.
At least cupholders are an option in both. My Ranger that I'll be replacing has none and its a pain.
Thanks for all the input guys. Doesn't seem like the upgrades are all that big of a deal to me when it comes to the engine so really just down to looks and man that OBS looks sooooo sweet.
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Ok there are some things I will add.
I have owned 2sd and 3obs
Sd have split shot inj. Ad code are 140cc obs are single shot 90cc for the most part unless Cali 120split obs
Splits need more oil volume.
Sd if making big power change to single shots.
IMO obs winner for potential but sd a tad more fuel.
Efuel on a sd is far from a perfect system. Those return fuel incorrectly and I would want the filter housing moved and better filtration.
L99 sd has 3" plenums and they all have ic on them.
Find the used ic parts and install on an obs for a few hundo bucks.
Sd do ride better. My wife will tell you ALL about how she liked the sd better.
I did an rsk and repaired my seats . She doesn't complaign too much these days. It wouldn't do any good with the $ I have invested Clifford is home!
IMO it's just what you want more than wich is better. We all know the obs wins that every time!
I have owned 2sd and 3obs
Sd have split shot inj. Ad code are 140cc obs are single shot 90cc for the most part unless Cali 120split obs
Splits need more oil volume.
Sd if making big power change to single shots.
IMO obs winner for potential but sd a tad more fuel.
Efuel on a sd is far from a perfect system. Those return fuel incorrectly and I would want the filter housing moved and better filtration.
L99 sd has 3" plenums and they all have ic on them.
Find the used ic parts and install on an obs for a few hundo bucks.
Sd do ride better. My wife will tell you ALL about how she liked the sd better.
I did an rsk and repaired my seats . She doesn't complaign too much these days. It wouldn't do any good with the $ I have invested Clifford is home!
IMO it's just what you want more than wich is better. We all know the obs wins that every time!
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I've been searching for a used old body F250 with a 7.3, but finding one in crew cab with a straight body seems pretty difficult. I am tempted to widen my search to the newer style even though the older body looks way better IMHO. I've done some searching and found DIFFERENCES in the two, but are they better? Different turbo (wastegated), split injectors, electric pump, etc. But longevity and build quality are my main concerns. Am I better off just toughing it out looking for the OBS I want or will a 99-02 serve me just as well?
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My OBS is down right now with a broken clutch disc, so I borrowed my buddy's 2001 to bring my fifth wheel home from NC. I actually thought about selling my OBS and buying an SD. I had a brand new one in '04, kept it three years then went back to an OBS. After driving my buddy's '01 7.3 down here, they have the same problems that OBS trucks do after 220,000 miles. They do ride a little better, but I like my OBS trucks and always have. I guess that's why I have 9 of them. LOL! The creature comforts are the biggest difference in my opinion, but the OBS truck are just way tougher trucks.
I'll be towing my fifth wheel back to WV and through the mountains Saturday with this '01. It has an intake, exhaust, and a TS 6 position chip with canned tunes. It is a 6 spd. and has 315 tires on it. I'm anxious to see how it does towing. I can say that my OBS with the mods I have has WAY more power than this '01.
I'll be towing my fifth wheel back to WV and through the mountains Saturday with this '01. It has an intake, exhaust, and a TS 6 position chip with canned tunes. It is a 6 spd. and has 315 tires on it. I'm anxious to see how it does towing. I can say that my OBS with the mods I have has WAY more power than this '01.