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Old 06-05-2016, 09:00 AM
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No grease able U joints on my 02 f250? Factory ?

As stated in the posting I crawled under my truck to Greece my driveline and all the other U joints, because on deceleration I'm getting a slight chirping noise so I figured grease it up.

I found that none of the U joints on the rear driveshaft front driveshaft or four-wheel-drive on the outside of the axles have grease zerks. ? I could've sworn the rear driveline or fromt driveline had zerks but I guess not (maybe I'm getting it confused with my old 97 CCLB? ) I just am wondering if they're factory u joints being non serviceable ? And if so I have 151 k miles. But will run them till they go bad I suppose !
 
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:12 AM
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They don't necessarily indicate factory. You can buy both greasable and non greasable u-joints in the aftermarket too. There are differing opinions on which is the best option. Me, for my truck, put in greasable joints. It's not that I don't trust the non-greasable joints, it's just that I have the train of thought that if I put grease in them, I know for sure they are greased.

You may not want to run them till they fail, bad things can happen if a joint were to let go in the rear shaft doing 70 or so down the highway...:.
 
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:15 AM
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That's true. I think they're ok still though. No play in them as far as I can see
 
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Greaseable U-joints, especially aftermarket ones, are JUNK. Maybe I should rephrase that......

U-joints that are greaseable are a horrible idea. They always have and always will be. If they ever are getting greased (not likely), then they are getting over-greased. Once the grease has been spit out past the seal then you have to regrease them every other day to keep crap out of them. The seals are soft and will not seat properly again once grease has been forced past them.

The factory non-greaseable joints (like the stock Spicers) can last nearly 300K miles if not abused, left underwater for years, or taken apart. The seals are a one-time-use only but they WORK.
 
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Greaseable U-joints, especially aftermarket ones, are JUNK. Maybe I should rephrase that......

U-joints that are greaseable are a horrible idea. They always have and always will be. If they ever are getting greased (not likely), then they are getting over-greased. Once the grease has been spit out past the seal then you have to regrease them every other day to keep crap out of them. The seals are soft and will not seat properly again once grease has been forced past them.

The factory non-greaseable joints (like the stock Spicers) can last nearly 300K miles if not abused, left underwater for years, or taken apart. The seals are a one-time-use only but they WORK.
The percentage and load of towing compared to non towing can also affect joint reliability. And then there are the lifted trucks with their particular problems. I got passed by a lifted, overloaded F250 (the rear end was way below level) pulling a 3 axle toy hauler doing at least 80. I doubt his u-joints will last 300K. I do agree about the non-greasable being more reliable for the typical light truck like we have.
 
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Originally Posted by Rikster-7700

You may not want to run them till they fail, bad things can happen if a joint were to let go in the rear shaft doing 70 or so down the highway...:.
I've seen trucks on the side of the road with a driveshaft laying on the ground. For me, I got some chatter and a clunk I could hear when mine started to wear so I changed it then before it got worse.

Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Greaseable U-joints, especially aftermarket ones, are JUNK. Maybe I should rephrase that......

U-joints that are greaseable are a horrible idea. They always have and always will be. If they ever are getting greased (not likely), then they are getting over-greased. Once the grease has been spit out past the seal then you have to regrease them every other day to keep crap out of them. The seals are soft and will not seat properly again once grease has been forced past them.

The factory non-greaseable joints (like the stock Spicers) can last nearly 300K miles if not abused, left underwater for years, or taken apart. The seals are a one-time-use only but they WORK.
I disagree on a few points. First, the non greasable ones can last much longer that 300k. Mine went about 450k.

Next, I'm not scared of greasable ones either. I have plenty on farm equipment and have around 100k on the ones in my driveshaft.
 
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Last night I changed out all three u joints. Took me about six hours but I got it done, I went with the Spicer greasrable u joints. I also lubed my slip yoke with Motorcraft slip yoke lube. One of three was bad for sure. The one at the rear axle was the culprit
 
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Greaseable U-joints, especially aftermarket ones, are JUNK. Maybe I should rephrase that......

U-joints that are greaseable are a horrible idea. They always have and always will be. If they ever are getting greased (not likely), then they are getting over-greased. Once the grease has been spit out past the seal then you have to regrease them every other day to keep crap out of them. The seals are soft and will not seat properly again once grease has been forced past them.

The factory non-greaseable joints (like the stock Spicers) can last nearly 300K miles if not abused, left underwater for years, or taken apart. The seals are a one-time-use only but they WORK.
Not true..
My truck is at 187,000 miles every U joint in it was either seized or so rusty it was seized.. Greasable U joints work great it they get greased. And that would depend on how many miles you are putting on them.. The grease does a great job of keeping water out..
I vote for Zerks especially to this crowd , guys who care for their own trucks will indeed grease them !

Kyle
 
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielT28
Last night I changed out all three u joints. Took me about six hours but I got it done, I went with the Spicer greasrable u joints. I also lubed my slip yoke with Motorcraft slip yoke lube. One of three was bad for sure. The one at the rear axle was the culprit
I was going to say Spicer/Dana make a greaseable u-joint.
 
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Not true..
My truck is at 187,000 miles every U joint in it was either seized or so rusty it was seized.. Greasable U joints work great it they get greased. And that would depend on how many miles you are putting on them.. The grease does a great job of keeping water out..
I vote for Zerks especially to this crowd , guys who care for their own trucks will indeed grease them !

Kyle
Your one pick up versus the twelve that I have in my fleet that live their lives being driven like rental cars on muddy gravel roads year round say otherwise.

This is not counting my three personal vehicles that had 275k, 263k, and 198k on the factory U-joints.... Two of the vehicles I changed simply as a maintenance item even though they still had plenty of life left in them. The last ones were replaced because the entire drive shaft was replaced. They were still good too.
 
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Your one pick up versus the twelve that I have in my fleet that live their lives being driven like rental cars on muddy gravel roads year round say otherwise.
Or vs my farm machinery in a Canadian climate where we have salt and snow..
Ohh wait .. My brothers 2003 7.3 with 196,000 miles are toast as well

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Your one pick up versus the twelve that I have in my fleet that live their lives being driven like rental cars on muddy gravel roads year round say otherwise.

This is not counting my three personal vehicles that had 275k, 263k, , and 198k on the factory U-joints.... Two of the vehicles I changed simply as a maintenance item even though they still had plenty of life left in them. The last ones were replaced because the entire drive shaft was replaced. They were still good too.
How often would you say you grease ?

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I live in the Portland or area. Out in the sticks. But I think I'll be just Fine. I don't wheel my truck or tow much at all. Just a pavement pounder. Daily driver. Try to save bashing for my dirt bike !
 
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Originally Posted by Macmathews
How often would you say you grease ?

Kyle
Not sure of Cody's schedule, but thanks for the reminder. I'd say it's time to grease mine again. I've ran the greasable version for the last couple of hundred thousand miles.
 
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Waaay back in the day the lube schedule in the manual for greasing was every 1000 miles, 500 for "severe service". I know people who run heavy earth moving equipment that will lube every day.
 


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