1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Sounds like a bag of wrenches!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-01-2016, 04:31 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sounds like a bag of wrenches!

On my '04 cc/lb F-250 6.0 FX4 with 262000 miles, when it hits any bumps in the road it sounds like there is a bag of wrenches rattling under my front end. It only rattles at the bump. It doesn't continue as you drive down the road. It seems once you pass the bump and the weight resumes onto the axle the rattle instantly stops. I even drove around with the hubs locked and the rattle remained. The truck drives well, ball joints are tight, and it doesn't wander at all.
Any ideas or things I could look at?

Thanks in advance!
 
  #2  
Old 06-01-2016, 04:46 PM
chiefn10's Avatar
chiefn10
chiefn10 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
loose shock bolts?
 
  #3  
Old 06-01-2016, 04:47 PM
MisterCMK's Avatar
MisterCMK
MisterCMK is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Blue Hill Township
Posts: 24,705
Received 53 Likes on 43 Posts
Check the sway bar end links and the bushings. Pretty common.
 
  #4  
Old 06-01-2016, 07:25 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I check it out tomorrow. Thanks!!
 
  #5  
Old 06-02-2016, 12:29 PM
airm4n's Avatar
airm4n
airm4n is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Tap your catalytic converter(s) as well just in case.
 
  #6  
Old 06-02-2016, 04:53 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I looked over the bushings and they look decent. I took the weight off the axles when i inspected. I think my needle bearing may be shot on the passenger side. I can wiggle that axle around pretty easy. This looks a little more complicated to fix compared to the bushings.

 
  #7  
Old 06-03-2016, 04:15 PM
MisterCMK's Avatar
MisterCMK
MisterCMK is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Blue Hill Township
Posts: 24,705
Received 53 Likes on 43 Posts
Did you check the end links as well for the sway bar?
 
  #8  
Old 06-03-2016, 04:34 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yup. I believe I checked them all. The axle in the picture I can physically move an 1/8" in any direction. There's even a plastic seal that has worked its way out. I'm guessing that I shouldn't have that much slop with that axle.
 
  #9  
Old 06-03-2016, 07:09 PM
ligito's Avatar
ligito
ligito is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,229
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Did you check to see if you do have a bag of wrenches stashed underneath?
 
  #10  
Old 06-03-2016, 07:20 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Now that you say that, I am missing a few from my work bench!!
 
  #11  
Old 06-04-2016, 01:04 AM
PokerMunkee's Avatar
PokerMunkee
PokerMunkee is offline
Senior User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Woodland Park, CO
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
I had clunk noises that was solved by new u-joints. They were rusted and the caps broken off.
 
  #12  
Old 06-11-2016, 08:49 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well this morning I decided to finally tear apart the truck and try to find this annoying rattle. The hub is in good shape. The tire doesn't wobble at all. I found that the u joint was shot. Some I replaced it and reassembled everything and took it for a drive. It still rattled but only half as bad.
I did notice that I can still wobble the yoke assemble slightly as it goes into the back of the wheel/hub bearing. Do you guys think that the bearing is also bad even though the tire doesn't wobble?

Thanks!
 
  #13  
Old 06-18-2016, 10:25 AM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well I replaced the sway bar bushings, not that I thought that they were bad but sometimes looks can be deceiving. And they were only $15.
It still rattles!
The drag link bushings looked good too.
There is a fair amount of movement/slop from the axle that protrudes into the wheel hub assembly. Maybe the hub is bad but it's not showing the typical signs of being bad. I would rather not spend another $120 guessing that the problem may be fixed but I think it's my next option.
 
  #14  
Old 06-19-2016, 04:52 AM
DetailerDave's Avatar
DetailerDave
DetailerDave is offline
Elder User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If you have the locking hub removed, the axle stub will have play/slop in the outer end. I serviced my truck's front end last year with everything new. Stub shafts, wheel bearings, u-joints, seals and ball joints. I still had a lot of play in the stub shaft. Turned out the locking hub itself was worn out.
 
  #15  
Old 06-19-2016, 06:53 AM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had a suspicion that it could have been the locking hub too. I removed it complete and took it for a test drive and the noise was still there. I think my only other choice is to replace the hub assembly.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ironoutlaw2010
2004 - 2008 F150
8
07-28-2015 08:32 PM
ELT
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
8
04-21-2015 06:47 PM
ves83
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
3
09-25-2014 09:08 AM
xmugsyx
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
3
01-31-2008 07:44 PM
rustynuts
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
5
01-02-2008 06:45 PM



Quick Reply: Sounds like a bag of wrenches!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:18 PM.