Just curious - I'm sure some suspension changes have been made - but does anyone know if the new model will sag as badly when loaded? It seemed the 1999-2007 Super Duty did not sag much at all, then the spring design changed in 2008 and the trucks rode better but sagged badly.

My 2012 F-250 was rated for 3200lbs; put 2000 lbs in it and it seemed to have about 3 inches before hitting the bump stops.

The F-350's have been slightly better with the overload, but even then they still sag more than I'd like.

Maybe the real question is: will we still need to add airbags or helper springs to the new trucks?

 

Great question troverman. Pretty sad how much my 2011 F250 sags with just my utility trailer and a golf cart back there. Equalizer hitch does help with my travel trailer, but bed still dips down to the back tires more than I would like to see. You would think they would be a littler stouter as beefy and big as these trucks are. We should NOT have to add airbags or springs to a 72,000 truck.

 

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16058310

 

From what I have seen so far, no. But I haven't been around a new one where the single wheel was loaded to max weight. All the engineers stated that was one of the top complaints from the current gen owners. Hopefully they make it happen!

 

Hopefully Ford has some different engineers on the 17's as whoever decided it was ok for those trucks to squat that much needs to be fired..
How did that get past them with all the so called testing that was done then? What was there answer to the reason they allowed so much squat?

 

No kidding, biggest thing I hate about mine. An add a leaf helped though. But when unloaded, it rides like a dump truck.

A Ram with coils, that rides MUCH better, doesn't squat as much!!

 

Doesn't the coil-sprung Ram have air suspension to keep it level, though?

 

They do as I just looked and drove my neighbors new 16' Ram limited he just got..

 

The air suspension is an option. Not all of them have it.

 

How did you feel it rode.....pretty great or just about the same as a Superduty?

 

That is great news, thanks! You didn't even need to come close to "max weight" to make the current version sag, so I'd say they improved it.

 

Maybe it's just me but most SD's I see on the road empty sit level whereas the new GM twins have a nice rake from front to back. I like a truck to sit up in the back a bit so it's level when loaded.

 

I agree, and this has bothered me for awhile. My uncle has a 2005 GMC 2500 Duramax. We each loaded a one-ton pallet of wood pellets in the beds of our trucks. His comment was "did they put half-ton springs on the back of your truck?"

 

And a unintended consequence of the sag is very noticeable at night. The lights wind up pointed way too high and oncoming traffic gets blinded. I've passed hundreds of these trucks and flashed half of them only to realize that they were loaded after the fact. So they can't see the road and oncoming traffic gets lots of glare.

 

No wonder Ford made the headlights perform so poorly...it was to not blind other drivers as badly when the back end sagged! Lol.

Hopefully the new trucks don't sag as bad with better lights.