Didnt know that, Thanks. They keep making these things longer. Itll take a 40 acre field just to turn them around. lol

 

Hey guys. The link for the 2017 Super Duty Order/Configuration Guide seems to be down again. Anyone have the PDF they could post or email?

Randall

Edit: Link is working again for me.

 

Great tune by the Willis Brothers:

 

Approximates:
4" longer cab (over previous SD's)
3" longer bed (over F-150)

 

The 2017 standard bed (6 3/4' box) crew cab has a 159.8" wheelbase, not 164". The bed is ~3" longer than the 6.5' F150 SCREW and the wheelbase is ~3" longer as well.

 

I think the 2017 changed to 164". Thats what the order guide says that was posted at the start of this thread. When you open it up, its one of the first things mentioned. thats what i was asking about. Its the same body as the f150, only the cab and bed a a few inches longer. Like someone already mentioned, the front end is probably stretched to allow for the diesel.

 

The numbers in the new brochure gives the wheelbase I quoted. The current 6.75 crew has a 156.2" wheelbase, so I think 159.8" is correct. I think the lwb scab is 164" for 2017.

 

i hope your right, its long enough for me as it is.

 

Here it is, quoted from page 1 of the order guide for 2017:

 

I was thinking the 160" was for the supercab long bed. and the 164 for the crew cab short bed.
Reg cab long = 142
supercab short = 148
supercab long = 160
crew short = 164
crew long = 176

 

No. You have super long and crew short mixed up:

supercab long = 164
crew short = 160

just like troverman mentioned.

 

oh i see. I just assumed that they were in order from reg to crew cab. but i guess there in order from shortest to longest.

 

Yeah, the crew cabs are not always the longest. In this case, the extended cab long bed has a longer wheelbase, and is a longer truck, than the crew cab short bed.

 

i see. Ive always thought that ford, gm, dodge, used the same frames and wheelbases, just different configurations. for instance a reg can lwb was the same as a ex cab swb, or a ex cab lwb was the same as a crew swb, and so on. Looks like it would be more cost effective to keep it simple like that but im sure they have a reason for making them slightly different. Learn something new everyday.

 

Sounds like that would make sense, but the bed lengths would be off. Some would be too short, and some might be too long.

It used to be most pickups had an 8-foot bed, so that the standard 8-foot long pieces of lumber, plywood, etc. would fit inside with the tailgate closed.

The reason was that most people did not drive a pickup as their personal vehicle - the purpose of the truck was to be able to haul standard-sized plywood, 2x4's, drywall, etc...plus tow and drive off-road.

Around the turn of the century, pickups became more comfortable and feature-laden...and the emphasis for trucks increased towards passenger carrying while still offering some utility. I believe this shift happened as gas prices rose, and very large body-on-frame SUVs started to go away. People loved those vehicles, but during the high gas prices period, people started buying cars with better fuel economy. The manufacturers misjudged somewhat - they assumed people only wanted SUVs, but only if they could get better fuel economy. Thus, the crossover vehicle was born, aka the "watered down SUV."

As gas prices eventually dropped, many people still preferred the largest vehicle they could buy and fit their family - and that was the crew cab trucks.

Now, the manufacturers have an absolute goldmine with pickup trucks. There are far more configurations and trims available now then ever before. Want the old, basic regular-cab, long bed pickup? Got it. Want a luxury-liner crew cab short bed? No problem. Or everything in between.