Could my truck be breaking CPS's?
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oops I wrote that before I had my coffee this morning! Sorry!
Man I really couldn't tell you. Have you been through the no start flow chart?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...1qRU1VVGc/view
Man I really couldn't tell you. Have you been through the no start flow chart?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...1qRU1VVGc/view
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oops I wrote that before I had my coffee this morning! Sorry!
Man I really couldn't tell you. Have you been through the no start flow chart?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...1qRU1VVGc/view
Man I really couldn't tell you. Have you been through the no start flow chart?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...1qRU1VVGc/view
Please feel free to advise on how I could most effectively test the fuel system. 15 psi when cranking.
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If I understand the mechanical fuel pump system correctly, there is only one two stage pump for the engine, located directly behind the fuel bowl between it and the turbo. The pump has a plunger that rides on a lobe on the cam shaft.
If you are getting fuel pressure, I would assume you're getting fuel flow through the filter. If that is the case, you should be getting white smoke out of the tail pipe when you're cranking.
If you are getting fuel pressure, I would assume you're getting fuel flow through the filter. If that is the case, you should be getting white smoke out of the tail pipe when you're cranking.
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True, lift pump is bad if it doesn't refill the bowl. But the converse isn't necessarily true. The lift pump is two-stage. First stage fills the bowl, low pressure, something like 6-8 psi. Second stage consumes the fuel from the bowl (post-filter) and feeds the injector lines, medium pressure, 40+ psi. As of now, if you're seeing fuel in the bowl, but only 15 psi at the schrader valve, that suggest a second stage failure.
But then I also wouldn't rule out weak batteries / starter. If it's only cranking at 100-150 RPM, that might also explain why the fuel pressure is low. If it were a manual, I would recommend trying to push start it, as that can crank the engine faster than the starter can.
But then I also wouldn't rule out weak batteries / starter. If it's only cranking at 100-150 RPM, that might also explain why the fuel pressure is low. If it were a manual, I would recommend trying to push start it, as that can crank the engine faster than the starter can.
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Just wanted to follow-up.. How can I test to see if the second stage has failed?
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Also, here is that thread on the Baro sensor.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-culprit.html
Sorry it took so long. Had to wait to get to a computer.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-culprit.html
Sorry it took so long. Had to wait to get to a computer.
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Updated info
Got the batteries more juice and retested Schrader valve. Reading was 40psi which is back in normal range. I then emptied the fuel bowl and switched on accessory to see if it would refill. Tried to crank a few times and went to check and it was still pretty empty. I also had my wife switch on to accessories while I listened at each gas cap and heard no humming sounds. Any thoughts?
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