Ford fixed this one. Good, they should.

At this point, I would avoid buying a new leftover 2015 supercab if you can.

Ford F-150 gets highest rating in new insurance crash tests | Fox News

 

Very interesting. Looks like the F150 is the only one to do well across the board:


Makes me feel good that I didn't buy that Ram last year!

 

Wonder what kind of crap GM and RAM are going to spew now about how terrible Aluminum is...even though both are switching to it soon.

 

Wow!!! The Dodge crew cab just plain folded up on the 1/4 offset test. The front wheel actually reached up to the midpoint of the front door...NOT GOOD for the driver...

 

Nobody makes a perfect truck, and there are some things that the other makes do better than Ford. Crashworthiness doesn't appear to be one of them though.

 

So, when is ford going to update (no, FIX) my 2015 SCab to meet the safety claims they said it did meet when I bought it, only to find out afterwards that it wasn't true?

 

They're not going to do anything about the 15's. The typical claim is that they meet or exceed the federal safety requirements. They will play both sides of the IIS testing. It's not the first time the supercab has fallen short by design.

 

This was on the ABC news last night. I was chuckling as I was asking my wife in a jokingly manner when GM would counter and then come out with their own aluminum truck in 2018 and say oops, sorry guys.

 

Which claims were advertised but not true?

Just looked at my window sticker because I remembered that they had crash test scores on some of them. Mine has "TO BE RATED" on all sections. All of the sections are for NHTSA crash test scores, not IIHS which isn't affiliated with the government.

I'd be a little frustrated, but your truck meets all applicable safety regulations and was fully legal to sell. I just looked it up, and the '15 SuperCab has 5-star front and side-impact crash scores with the NHTSA.

2011 & Newer - Search Results | Safercar -- National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

 

I'm impressed Ford turned it around so quickly. Good response from one of the big three. Did I mention I sell Fords intentionally?

 

Having worked a number of vehicle extrications over quite a few years, I can assure you that any vehicle lacking a pillar/post between each row of seats won't fare as well as one that does. It's basic physics. One reason I'd never buy a Supercab... just like I wouldn't buy a convertible for similar reasons.

 

[QUOTE=Tom;16203557]Which claims were advertised but not true?

OK, Good point. "not true" may be too strong a description.

All the info I researched before buying hyped the results you also quoted, all about how safe the design is, how good other crash test numbers are, but they also fail to say that the crash bars, which Ford must understand, help increase safety, were not included in all models. Only when the crash test results came out, was this fact revealed. And the "easy fix" for '16? Install the crash bars on all models. Not disclosing that they chose to leave out a safety-enhancing structure from some models is not illegal, but seems to by lying by omission. But it is, at least to me, very disappointing. Now, if simply installing the crash bars resolved the problem for '16, why not at least offer to install them on 2015 trucks? Ford has a history of choosing to accept a few injury and mortality claims vs. the cost of fixing an large number of vehicles (Pinto), and this situation reminds me of that history. Put the safety of the customers first, ford and at least offer to retrofit the trucks you sold that are less safe than they could be!

Perhaps NHTSA may have a different opinion if they can be convinced to view these crash bars as a safety structure that was left off of only certain models. If we were talking about weaker seat belt mounts that could be reinforced, would it be OK for the manufacturer to ignore it? I'm just calling attention to it with this. I agree that Ford is unlikely to do anything, but I'd be pleased to be proven wrong.