Does the 6.7's reliability really ruin the fun?
#31
I bought a 6.2 in 2013, and traded to a 6.7 in 2015, so I've owned both. Two things stand out in your OP. You said you tow 15,000 lbs, and you said you didn't like the high revs. Those two dictate a diesel. The 6.2 IS awesome, but not 15,000 lbs awesome, and boy will it rev. It's what it's made to do. Doesn't mind at all. But it's the nature of the beast. No way I'm going back to gas. This truck is just too much fun. Effortless towing with my current trailer, and will handle our fifth wheel easily when we step up to one in a couple years. Ford has been very diligent about resolving issues that have come up, and the latest versions seem to be very reliable. Both great engines, but the 6.7 gets my vote.
#32
I really appreciate all of the feedback. I really want a 6.7, but didn't want to have buyer's remorse from missing camping trips with the truck in the shop. It sounds like 6.7 issues are rare now.
Hopefully this will continue with the 2017. My prediction is a 950/475 rating, which may negatively impact reliability. (I wouldn't be shocked to see a 1000/500 rating, but would be more concerned about reliability if they stretch it that far.)
Hopefully this will continue with the 2017. My prediction is a 950/475 rating, which may negatively impact reliability. (I wouldn't be shocked to see a 1000/500 rating, but would be more concerned about reliability if they stretch it that far.)
#34
I really appreciate all of the feedback. I really want a 6.7, but didn't want to have buyer's remorse from missing camping trips with the truck in the shop. It sounds like 6.7 issues are rare now.
Hopefully this will continue with the 2017. My prediction is a 950/475 rating, which may negatively impact reliability. (I wouldn't be shocked to see a 1000/500 rating, but would be more concerned about reliability if they stretch it that far.)
Hopefully this will continue with the 2017. My prediction is a 950/475 rating, which may negatively impact reliability. (I wouldn't be shocked to see a 1000/500 rating, but would be more concerned about reliability if they stretch it that far.)
#35
I would stick with a gasser myself ,, I see the diesel trucks in my shop all the time .
We just got two new shop trucks , both gas engines . We have a diesel shop .....
I run the auto side of the shop and am covered up , all I can handle with my crew .
The diesel shop is swamped , three weeks deep booking ! Not enough lifts for removing cabs off Fords . I would stay away from a diesel !Duracraps aren't any better .
We just got two new shop trucks , both gas engines . We have a diesel shop .....
I run the auto side of the shop and am covered up , all I can handle with my crew .
The diesel shop is swamped , three weeks deep booking ! Not enough lifts for removing cabs off Fords . I would stay away from a diesel !Duracraps aren't any better .
#36
John, I hear you but it would be a lot more helpful to have you tell us what all those ford diesels are in the shop for. What model years? What's the most common problem? Why are those problems happening?
If the majority of the problems are water in fuel, a bad sensor, a truck with 90,000 miles on it in for coolant flush or other normal things, trans flushes, brake jobs, etc...
I would bet that the vast majority of "all those bad trucks" are just there for normal wear and tear or issues from abuse. There is a truck at my dealer with the cab off almost every time I go visit there, but, there are also cars with engine problems, so they're always there too.
If the majority of the problems are water in fuel, a bad sensor, a truck with 90,000 miles on it in for coolant flush or other normal things, trans flushes, brake jobs, etc...
I would bet that the vast majority of "all those bad trucks" are just there for normal wear and tear or issues from abuse. There is a truck at my dealer with the cab off almost every time I go visit there, but, there are also cars with engine problems, so they're always there too.
#40
Just today in TriCities Wa. my old high school buddy was getting the oil changed on his 6.2. A few bays down was a 6.7 with the cab off, and the truck still had temp plates on it. He, like me, has moved away from a lifetime of diesels to gas motors now, and this is just another example of why. Sorry, but the modern diesel is just a game of chance anymore....
#41
Just today in TriCities Wa. my old high school buddy was getting the oil changed on his 6.2. A few bays down was a 6.7 with the cab off, and the truck still had temp plates on it. He, like me, has moved away from a lifetime of diesels to gas motors now, and this is just another example of why. Sorry, but the modern diesel is just a game of chance anymore....
I am in the same boat as the original poster. I currently have a 2014 Silverado (dad works for GM) and while it has been a great truck the lease is coming due. I would love a new truck but who is buying trucks at over 55 grand????
So I am looking at a 2011 F250 with 109k on the clock. Is extremely clean but after my last used truck that was junk I am a bit gun shy. This will be my last truck for a significant amount of time and needs to last. With my company car I only drive the truck 1 or 2 days a week but with a small farm I need unlimited towing potential
#42
Was it new or a used truck? Temp tags don't tell us much. I had a Triton that was the biggest pile of junk known to man so not sure how one can say every diesel or every gas motor is garbage
I am in the same boat as the original poster. I currently have a 2014 Silverado (dad works for GM) and while it has been a great truck the lease is coming due. I would love a new truck but who is buying trucks at over 55 grand????
So I am looking at a 2011 F250 with 109k on the clock. Is extremely clean but after my last used truck that was junk I am a bit gun shy. This will be my last truck for a significant amount of time and needs to last. With my company car I only drive the truck 1 or 2 days a week but with a small farm I need unlimited towing potential
I am in the same boat as the original poster. I currently have a 2014 Silverado (dad works for GM) and while it has been a great truck the lease is coming due. I would love a new truck but who is buying trucks at over 55 grand????
So I am looking at a 2011 F250 with 109k on the clock. Is extremely clean but after my last used truck that was junk I am a bit gun shy. This will be my last truck for a significant amount of time and needs to last. With my company car I only drive the truck 1 or 2 days a week but with a small farm I need unlimited towing potential
I would go with a 2012. 2011's had some valve problems.
#43
#44
Just today in TriCities Wa. my old high school buddy was getting the oil changed on his 6.2. A few bays down was a 6.7 with the cab off, and the truck still had temp plates on it. He, like me, has moved away from a lifetime of diesels to gas motors now, and this is just another example of why. Sorry, but the modern diesel is just a game of chance anymore....
With that being said, I was in a gas powered 2016 Silverado (as a passenger) the other day and the amount of electronics in that truck make it a given that eventually something will break. Gas or diesel, these trucks are immensely complicated.