77 f250 351m has no power in 3rd or 4th gear
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77 f250 351m has no power in 3rd or 4th gear
Just replaced the coil and ignition module in my 1977 F250. Now after it warms up it looses power and starts sputtering. I know it's getting fuel so that points me toward the timing. It idles fine and runs good throughout 2nd gear and low rpm in 3rd. As long as I stay below say 30 mph it runs ok. Vac leak? Torn vac diaphram? Please help.
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If the problem developed right after you replaced parts then those parts are suspect. I would swap the ignition module to see if that changes anything. Then swap the plug wires if not.
And, speaking of plug wires, you did change them one at a time so there was no way to mis-wire it - right? If not, check your firing order.
And, speaking of plug wires, you did change them one at a time so there was no way to mis-wire it - right? If not, check your firing order.
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Parts that have been changed. Entire fuel system from tank to carb.and rebuilt it. Ran fine until it started to miss going up hill. Changed the coil. Once again ran fine until yesterday. Drove it for about 30 min then all of the sudden during acceleration through 3rd it started to buck and sputter until it died. Replaced the ICM and it seem to run a little better. I really appreciate the help
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Can you give us a sense of how long it "ran fine until it started to miss going up hill"? Was this a day or months? Ditto after you changed the coil. It looks like the changes you've made haven't gotten to the problem, although it is possible that if the times it ran well were many months then maybe it is a new problem.
Typically, missing under load at low RPM is poor spark getting to the plugs. That could be a bad coil giving poor spark, or bad wires/cap/rotor allowing the spark to go elsewhere than the plug it was supposed to go to. Or, it might be the pickup in the distributor, which can cause the timing to change or, in some cases, even go away. And, that usually happens when the engine gets warm. So, since you seem to have covered the other ignition components I'd replace the pickup.
But, it can be a fuel problem, although if so it is a lean condition rather than a rich condition. In other words it might be a vacuum leak but probably not a bad power valve as the power valve will give an overly rich condition.
Still, I'd finish the ignition system off before going to the fuel system as vacuum leaks don't usually change with engine temp and ignition can.
Typically, missing under load at low RPM is poor spark getting to the plugs. That could be a bad coil giving poor spark, or bad wires/cap/rotor allowing the spark to go elsewhere than the plug it was supposed to go to. Or, it might be the pickup in the distributor, which can cause the timing to change or, in some cases, even go away. And, that usually happens when the engine gets warm. So, since you seem to have covered the other ignition components I'd replace the pickup.
But, it can be a fuel problem, although if so it is a lean condition rather than a rich condition. In other words it might be a vacuum leak but probably not a bad power valve as the power valve will give an overly rich condition.
Still, I'd finish the ignition system off before going to the fuel system as vacuum leaks don't usually change with engine temp and ignition can.
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Boy, am I confused:
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Are you trying to say that everything seemed to behave fine after the Grand Parts Replacement but the same problem returned 5 days later?
If so, have you looked into your ignition switch at all? You say it seems like the ignition is turning off... well, maybe it is....
Are you trying to say that everything seemed to behave fine after the Grand Parts Replacement but the same problem returned 5 days later?
If so, have you looked into your ignition switch at all? You say it seems like the ignition is turning off... well, maybe it is....
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Yes after the new parts it ran awesome. Now it runs good through 2nd gear so I shift to 3rd and it seems to run fine until I get to the top end of third and entire 4th gear it acts as if it is losing ignition. I let off the gas down shift to third and it does it all over again until it completely dies.
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You say it acts like it is losing ignition (which, to me, means total removal of power from the ignition system) but I'm thinking it's not and you're being fooled...
Have you looked at your base timing and ignition timing advance? What is the base timing, and what is the total and when does it come in?
Have you looked at your base timing and ignition timing advance? What is the base timing, and what is the total and when does it come in?