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Old 02-24-2016, 01:41 AM
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Will new truck be too tall for old 5er?

Hi y'all.
My husband and I are are thinking of buying a 2016 f 250 4x4 to replace the 2008 f 250 2x4 we now tow with.
With our trailer set up for level travel we currently have an 8" gap between the bed rail and trailer.
The new truck is 3" taller than our old truck and has a 570 lb higher payload rating. We're worried that after we adjust the pinbox for the minimum 6" gap the trailer will still be too nose high because the new truck won't squat as much as the old truck. We tow a 27' 5er, so the king pin weight is only around 2000 lbs.
Oh, the new truck also has the snow plow prep.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
If anyone can tell us how much the new f 250 squats with 2k in the bed we'd be happy as clams.
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Old 02-24-2016, 03:51 AM
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I can't answer your question directly, but it seems like folks are complaining the new trucks squat more, not less than older models. Depending on your situation, there is a lift kit now available (Lippert) that raises the fiver 2" and depending on the axle position, you could flip the trailer axles or pick up some height going from 15" to 16" wheels.

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Thanks, Steve.
Our trailer was manufactured with the axle under the springs, so that option's out. We had talked about gaining an inch with wheels and tires.
After reading a bit about trucks with snow plow springs on the front end I'm now worried about the truck being high in the front end while towing.
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:17 PM
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I went from an 05 F-250, 4X2 to a 2015 F-350, 4X4 and had no problems. The 2015 does sit taller but wen I loaded the 5er on it every thing was just as level as with the 05. Personally I think you'll be OK.
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I just went from the "08' in sig to the '16' in sig. I had to set the B & W hitch at the lowest setting where as it was in the middle on the '08'. I have 8" of clearance now just like I did on the '08'. It sits level but will have to wait just a little longer as the weather warms up before starting this years adventure.
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This was our initial setup with a '15 F-250 and 37' Monty. The pin weight in this picture is about 2,200. The truck did squat but had no problem pulling it. I traded a few months later though for the F-350 DRW for the towing stability since we will be full-timing soon. We were close to max GVWR with the F-250.

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This was our initial setup with a '15 F-250 and 37' Monty. The pin weight in this picture is about 2,200. The truck did squat but had no problem pulling it. I traded a few months later though for the F-350 DRW for the towing stability since we will be full-timing soon. We were close to max GVWR with the F-250.

Pic might be deceiving but the front of the 5er looks a little high.
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Pic might be deceiving but the front of the 5er looks a little high.
Good spot!! It was. This was the inaugural trip of picking up the Montana with the F-250 and the day after I had my Curt 20 installed. The hitch was on the highest setting so the next day after getting home I measured how much lower it needed to come and measured the hitch. Ended up on the lowest of the three height adjustments, which is where it still is on my F-350.

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You will be just fine with the 2016. After all, it is not like the camper heights have changed in the last 20 years
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Thanks for the input, everyone. After a bit more research we figure both the 2x4 & 4x4 f250s will work. We're not too sure about the truck with the snowplow prep, we think it would be quite nose high when towing. We just might end up ordering what we want, as standard-cab long-box diesel XLs are few and far between.
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In looking at the pkgs. look at creature comfort on a long haul. You'll love the truck so much you'll want to drive 600+ miles per day. We have made a one day trip from Chatanooga to grand ledge mi. Towing with one driver in one day. Wasn't too tired but any other truck would have been whipped, grumpy.
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In looking at the pkgs. look at creature comfort on a long haul. You'll love the truck so much you'll want to drive 600+ miles per day. We have made a one day trip from Chatanooga to grand ledge mi. Towing with one driver in one day. Wasn't too tired but any other truck would have been whipped, grumpy.
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In January 2018 Ford gave me 2.7" squat for 2000 lbs load at rear axle on 2018 F-250 SRW, Crew Cab, 4x4, 6.7L diesel, 10,000 lbs GVWR. I asked for this information specifically because of new height of truck will be 59.8" unloaded versus my 2013 F-350 at 56" unloaded. To get around height problem I am changing tires from 15" to 16" ST235/85R16 which raises trailer 1.5". Then I will be adding 1 3/4" blocks between springs and axles. Also installing MOR Ryde SRE4000 suspension in place of stock equalizers on axles (changing to full lube heavy duty shackles at same time) which will raise camper roughly another 3/4". So all together trailer raises 4" or about the height difference of the 2013 vs 2018 truck. Hope this helps. Looks like lots of people are dealing with the same problem. Another option for raising trailer is Lippert Correct Track but it only works on some spring attachments. That raises camper 2".
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about an inch or two on a 20-25' long arm. The only time I'd be concerned is if it made me taller than the 13"6" legal limit.
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Good point! Some are close...ours factory stock specs at 13'-3"!
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