I was originally going to get a 2016 this past fall, but decided to wait to hear about the 17's. I want a 6.2 gas but was afraid of being disappointed in the power. How much of an increase do you think we will see, and when do you expect them to announce it?

Still not opposed to a diesel, I currently have two of each, and cant stand the power of the gas, to the point of not even towing with them, but I love the reliability.

 

I don't expect anything to drastic in terms of power/torque increases for the 6.2L I think the main focus is going to be getting the Powerstroke to 500hp and 1000lb/ft of torque honestly. I know Ford wants to be the first of the big three to break a 4 digit torque figure from a stock diesel.

However, with that said. I think the 6.2L will probably get a little love and attention. Ram's 6.4L Hemi puts out 410hp and 420lb/ft of torque if I remember correctly, that puts it slightly ahead of the Superduty 6.2's 385hp and 405lb/ft of torque. If anything I would expect the revised 6.2L to make at least slightly higher numbers than the 6.4L Hemi...Maybe 415 to 420hp and 430 or 440lb/ft of torque. You gotta remember, when it comes to 3/4 and 1-ton trucks they don't emphasize power over durability when it comes to gas engines.

Also another thing to take into account is that the 2017+ Superdutys will be made of aluminum, so they will be significantly lighter than the current model. That alone will make it feel more powerful and light on it's feet than the current model. I would imagine Aluminum combined with a little more power will make the new 6.2L's Superdutys feel noticeably quicker than the outgoing model.

 

Thank you, all good information. I think I would be happy if it was around 420hp and then 450-475 tq. Basically want to go gas this time for peace of mind and reliability, and to avoid the mod bug with diesels. But for some reason lacking power while working and towing every day all day is extremely irritating to me. I get extremely annoyed with my 5.4's. its for a business so cash is king.

although, isnt the new truck only supposed to be around 300 pounds lighter depending on model? It was originally even more weight savings but they added some of the savings to the frame

 

My guess would be gas motor will be class leading and diesel will be 460/950-1000 I just hope the diesel is the same across the board, their have been rumors about a de- tuned 250.

 

any idea when they will release more info on these trucks and when you think they will release the trucks themselves?

 

If thats true they will be selling a LOOOOT more 350's than 250s. Only people that might like that will be the fleet owners that own hundreds of trucks.

 

Guy at the car show today said order banks should open around May June so info should be out March April I would think.

 

Do you have any sources? All I have heard is that there will be a lighter duty transmission behind the gas motor in the 250.

 

This is what I was always informed of also. For 2017, same 2 motors as 2016.....One reason I didn't wait for a new gas motor. My thinking was 2018 will bring the motor changes/improvements.

 

No source read a couple articles online was just talk but got me thinking that's all

 

To the OP, you can't compare the power of the current 6.2L to that of your older 5.4's. Additionally, the 2017 truck will drop a little weight but not as much as the F-150 did do to frame enhancements and such.

 

I'm curious about something. How is 3-400 hp and 350-400 torque disappointing? What sort of unrealistic expectations do you have out of a truck? Gas trucks are rated very appropriately for their power and so are diesels. What are you expecting? A gas motor will never be a diesel and a diesel will never be a gas motor. there is almost no way to compare the 2. Might as well compare a submarine to an airplane. Sure they look similar but the parts and what they do are very different. If a 385 hp 6.2 doesn't impress you I highly doubt even a 450hp 6.2 will.

 

Not saying it will be absolutely horrible. But do you tow day in and day out? Have you owned tuned and modded diesels? I know the gas will not compare obviously, but with how much towing I do for work where time is money, I have never been happy while towing with gas engines. It sucks when all I do is tow and it feels like the engine is going to blast apart and it takes 10 minutes to get up to speed on a 55mph road with lots of traffic, need three times as much space to get on the road from each stop than I do with diesels. And I make a lot of stops, towing anywhere from 7k up to 15k every day of the week except sundays

 

I do appreciate your opinion, I will say I've never driven a 6.2, only 5.4 and chevy 6.0 gas engines. Maybe I should give one a try, but no salesman will let me hook up a brand new truck to a trailer

By the way, thank you for your service.

 

I do not tow every day but do buy and sell, a lot of cars so I'm always towing them(Maybe once a week). I also tow mini excavators and skid steers a lot as well. Many around 10-12000#. All that is done with a 08 5.4. I have absolutely no need to more power. I can hold any speed on any hill and never had an issue merging into traffic. I came from a 7.3 and will never go back.


Coming from a diesel I very much understand what you mean about the motor feeling like it's going to explode. That fact is, it won't. Gas motors make their power higher so they rev more. They will not blow up.

I Wil never try to convince anyone how to spend their money but "needing" more power is simply an opinion. Much much less power got people around no problem for a long time. To me it seems like nothing short of the newest, most powerful diesel will make you happy so that is the route you should take.