aluminum degas bottle???
#1
aluminum degas bottle???
curious if any of you have seen this or would consider running an aluminum coolant degas bottle...
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Their deep dish oil pan looks interesting as well
No, I am not thinking of getting either of these, just stumbled across them, and figured I would share.
Featured Products PSP Diesel LLC
Their deep dish oil pan looks interesting as well
No, I am not thinking of getting either of these, just stumbled across them, and figured I would share.
#3
Mike is running the coolant bottle...
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Nicmike
Good responses so far for you Watty. The radiators have plastic caps on the top and bottom with plastic inlet and outlet. They do crack after as many years as we have on our trucks. Mine cracked on top. Leaked fluid EVERYWHERE while pulling a buddy's 5th wheel. I went with an all aluminum replacement so I would not have to ever worry about it again. Like kcb said, check the degas bottle for cracks on the bottom first.
If you will keep the green coolant, you will need to be diligent about checking it periodically with the test strips. Many of us have switched to the red ELC (CAT/EC-1 rated) coolant that does not need test strips. Many threads on that in the 7.3L forum.
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Bastrop, TX
Posts: 2,482
Nicmike
Good responses so far for you Watty. The radiators have plastic caps on the top and bottom with plastic inlet and outlet. They do crack after as many years as we have on our trucks. Mine cracked on top. Leaked fluid EVERYWHERE while pulling a buddy's 5th wheel. I went with an all aluminum replacement so I would not have to ever worry about it again. Like kcb said, check the degas bottle for cracks on the bottom first.
If you will keep the green coolant, you will need to be diligent about checking it periodically with the test strips. Many of us have switched to the red ELC (CAT/EC-1 rated) coolant that does not need test strips. Many threads on that in the 7.3L forum.
#5
Apparently there is a market for Aluminum Bottles, even Mishimoto is starting to work on one...
6.0l | Mishimoto Engineering Blog
I just read through a blog where they are looking onto making the bottle a two piece design, so it can be taken apart for cleaning. They are also looking into having a sight glass and an attachment point for a pressure gauge or sensor.
It could end up being a cool piece!
6.0l | Mishimoto Engineering Blog
I just read through a blog where they are looking onto making the bottle a two piece design, so it can be taken apart for cleaning. They are also looking into having a sight glass and an attachment point for a pressure gauge or sensor.
It could end up being a cool piece!
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#8
You might post this in the 6.0l section as well and get some good input. I can also tag a couple others.
@Maxium4x4 @Sparky83 @acf6 @WatsonR
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VERY GOOD POINT! Would a one time buy be worth it, or pay a forth the price and get a bottle that could last years without any issues...
#9
To me it's not the longevity of the bottle, it's the lack of ease regarding a quick visual check for level as well as clarity/color to verify no lurking or impending issues.
Even with a sight glass, the amount of fluid you can see in that compared to a transparent bottle wouldn't be a very good indicator of fluid condition, only level.
Even with a sight glass, the amount of fluid you can see in that compared to a transparent bottle wouldn't be a very good indicator of fluid condition, only level.
#10
To me it's not the longevity of the bottle, it's the lack of ease regarding a quick visual check for level as well as clarity/color to verify no lurking or impending issues.
Even with a sight glass, the amount of fluid you can see in that compared to a transparent bottle wouldn't be a very good indicator of fluid condition, only level.
Even with a sight glass, the amount of fluid you can see in that compared to a transparent bottle wouldn't be a very good indicator of fluid condition, only level.
#11
They are saying that the tank will help remove heat, it doesn't see that much flow really.... and then making it hot enough to not touch without getting burned. There isn't significant air flow there to begin with and then that hot tank just transfers the heat to other components, the firewall, your hood, the intake tube feeding the turbo..... like the FICM isn't hot enough already!
For every one degree of intake air temp decrease, you gain horse power. In a gasser, its basically 1-1, why they ice the intake on high HP drag cars, I'm sure its more than 1-1 on a diesel and those drag cars, probably above 1-5.... why they sell cold air intakes, most of them just don't get enough cold air exposure.
It might help with cold starts the next morning or maybe not have to scrape the drivers side windshield.
removing heat is great, but the heat has to go somewhere and in this case.... probably to all the other components that surround the tank. If I drove around with no hood... it would look cool!
And the oil pan.... someone shoot there oil pan with an infer red thermometer.
thanks for the tag Bently
For every one degree of intake air temp decrease, you gain horse power. In a gasser, its basically 1-1, why they ice the intake on high HP drag cars, I'm sure its more than 1-1 on a diesel and those drag cars, probably above 1-5.... why they sell cold air intakes, most of them just don't get enough cold air exposure.
It might help with cold starts the next morning or maybe not have to scrape the drivers side windshield.
removing heat is great, but the heat has to go somewhere and in this case.... probably to all the other components that surround the tank. If I drove around with no hood... it would look cool!
And the oil pan.... someone shoot there oil pan with an infer red thermometer.
thanks for the tag Bently
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For every one degree of intake air temp decrease, you gain horse power. In a gasser, its basically 1-1, why they ice the intake on high HP drag cars, I'm sure its more than 1-1 on a diesel and those drag cars, probably above 1-5.... why they sell cold air intakes, most of them just don't get enough cold air exposure...
For every one degree of intake air temp decrease, you gain horse power. In a gasser, its basically 1-1, why they ice the intake on high HP drag cars, I'm sure its more than 1-1 on a diesel and those drag cars, probably above 1-5.... why they sell cold air intakes, most of them just don't get enough cold air exposure...
I can't dig through all my notes to find the calculations regarding forced induction motors, but due to their operating physics they do indeed have a more substantial gain with temperature drops. We had a cold front move through Houston earlier last week and dropped it from 65-70 to the mid 40's. All I know is my Excursion went from chirping tires on a 6psi launch to smoking them through the intersection before the computer defueled for the shift. Something I am currently awaiting a tune revision to get rid of since the trans is more than capable of handling the power now