moving a 44ft race trailer

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moving a 44ft race trailer

Hi,I am going to be buying a 44ft gooseneck race hauler that has not been moved or serviced in at least 10 years.My tow truck is a 79 F350 Crew cab dually ,460,4 speed+spicer 4spd overdrive auxiliary.that is not the issue.I am in PA and it is in Arkansas.Old tires ,axle bearings,need repacked and seals?All of the typical has not moved in a thousand years problems.I would have it shipped but all the places I have checked say it won't fit on a trailer and would hook it it up to drag it 1,100 miles.I would rather do all of the work at home.
So my question is:Is there any way to get it shipped reasonably?Or am I planning an adventure to go get it and spend a week to get it ready and the hook her up and tow it home to PA.Opinions.
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in a field, sank in the mud.. on gravel... pavement.


loaded with junk all this time.. or empty..


44 foot.. full enclosed... or a flat bed type..


tires, unloaded, carry several spare tires...
brakes maybe locked/rusted.. and will not rotate.
bearing should be OK.. if caps are still on hubs.
wiring.. connectors maybe bad.. lights may have water inside.. burned out.
and if a box trailer.. Water damage/weight.. as body soaked inside may add 2,000 pounds .


and paying someone.. they will have to address all these issues..
a trailer on a trailer.. US DOT permits will be needed.. My opinion..
 
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in a field, sank in the mud.. on gravel... pavement.


loaded with junk all this time.. or empty..


44 foot.. full enclosed... or a flat bed type..


tires, unloaded, carry several spare tires...
brakes maybe locked/rusted.. and will not rotate.
bearing should be OK.. if caps are still on hubs.
wiring.. connectors maybe bad.. lights may have water inside.. burned out.
and if a box trailer.. Water damage/weight.. as body soaked inside may add 2,000 pounds .


and paying someone.. they will have to address all these issues..
a trailer on a trailer.. US DOT permits will be needed.. My opinion..
Fully enclosed race car trailer,currently setting behind the house hooked to a d350,empty,no water damage.It also has vacuum assist hydraulic brakes so not just any one can hook up and go.
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:43 PM
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well True.. but if empty.. could pull without brakes till it gets home.. maybe..


still wheels must rotate.. and maybe pickup several tires with wheels..


but to pay someone.. would be costly. issues, fuel, miles, time. an PLATES.
 
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Hello again,all things that I already know. I was just trying to avoid the inevitable ,which like all of the things in my life ,I will just make a plan and go get it in the spring.
The deal is to good to pass up.I will just take tires,tools and a few days to get it back up to snuff and take all of the vacuum brake parts off of the dodge and transfer them to my ford and not drive very fast on the way home.
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I think I would either pass on it for something closer and maintained (unless free) or plan on a week out there doing new tires, wheel bearing issues, wiring issues and maybe a brake job.

It is winter as well.
 
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I think I would either pass on it for something closer and maintained (unless free) or plan on a week out there doing new tires, wheel bearing issues, wiring issues and maybe a brake job.

It is winter as well.
No can do,it is this trailer or nothing.It was used buy a very famous drag racer.And I built the same kind of drag car that the trailer is set up for.
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collect parts, save money, make a plan,, make a plan "B" and maybe a "C"..


and Remember on the internet.. NO Photo's = Did Not Happen...


Have a safe trip. Plan Smart.
 
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Have a safe trip. Plan Smart.
You say that but yet in a previous post you suggest dragging a 44ft enclosed trailer without any brakes on it...
 
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Where in Arkansas? I will pass by Little Rock probably next Thursday? I could make take a look at it if it is not too far out of the way.
 
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You say that but yet in a previous post you suggest dragging a 44ft enclosed trailer without any brakes on it...

So, the empty trailer may weight 4,000 pounds.. a superduty can not control an empty 4,000 pound trailer???

my 2012 can carry almost 4k in its bed..

6,100 minus 2,500 (scaled) = 3,600 in the bed..


Have a Good Day.
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
So, the empty trailer may weight 4,000 pounds.. a superduty can not control an empty 4,000 pound trailer???

my 2012 can carry almost 4k in its bed..

6,100 minus 2,500 (scaled) = 3,600 in the bed..


Have a Good Day.
An empty 44' enclosed gooseneck race car trailer is going to weigh in the ball park of 7-8000# empty, depending on manufacturer maybe more.

I would purchase a set of tires on wheels and plan on swapping them on the spot. Bearings can be repacked while the wheels are off and the brakes can be looked at and adjusted while in there. Then it's just a matter of checking the lights and the brake system out and heading on down the road. The biggest issue with sitting is the rusting of the frame if it has been out in the weeds or something similar.

Temporary lights can be had inexpensively, and if you trust your trucks brakes the trip can be made. Just would need to be extremely careful, and I would not advise it.

Is it possible to have someone down there check out the brake system and wiring before you go get it? Maybe even check out the brakes and swap the tires so all you would have to do is hook and go?
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
So, the empty trailer may weight 4,000 pounds.. a superduty can not control an empty 4,000 pound trailer???

my 2012 can carry almost 4k in its bed..

6,100 minus 2,500 (scaled) = 3,600 in the bed..


Have a Good Day.
Pretty sure OP is using a 79 crewcab, not a 2012, but perhaps I mis-read that.

Either way, 1979 or 2012 truck, it sounds like a grand adventure. I've never heard of the vacuum assist brakes, at least on something as small as a gas F-350. Could somebody educate me on these. Is it perhaps, something I've missed by avoiding anything older than 1980?


Think I would book a hotel over night, drag it to the parking lot, and do tires and bearings there, or find a local shop to do them in case of rust. I'm also thinking it has to be a double or triple axle, in which case I have seen people take off a wheel if there is issues with it, at least with the trailer unloaded.

Oh and yes. Pics are a MUST!
 
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Hello again,to clear up some confusion I will be using a 1979 F350:built 460,4sp+spicer 4spd aux,4.10Dana 70,all new brakes,hitch,wiring,dual tanks ect......it can drag your house away,and stop on a dime and I can split all 4 gears in the main box doing it.
I'll just say it the trailer is Bill Maverick Goldens tri axle Haulmark (Little Red Wagon wheelstander).I knew Bill and the guy that is going with me knew and helped Bill for over 25 years and also put the vacuum brakes on the trailer.I can do all of the work at Bills house,his wife still lives their.
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
So, the empty trailer may weight 4,000 pounds.. a superduty can not control an empty 4,000 pound trailer???

my 2012 can carry almost 4k in its bed..

6,100 minus 2,500 (scaled) = 3,600 in the bed..


Have a Good Day.
You are mistaken on that trailer weight. I have a 25' enclosed that weighs 4,000lbs and that is a bumper pull. The 25' flatbed gooseneck is 5,000lbs. Neither of those you should be pulling without working brakes.
 

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