Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

Boost and EGT questions

  #1  
Old 12-15-2015, 06:29 PM
killert's Avatar
killert
killert is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Norristown PA
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Boost and EGT questions

I have a 88 7.3, about 150kmiles. ZF5, 3.55s. R&D stock injectors. Reman pump with unknown miles or origin. Used banks sidewider turbo, with straight 3 inch exhaust. Still using headbolts, no studs yet. Oil pressure 36-38 on the road, 22-25 idle hot. Truck was original N/A with C6.

Anyway. when I first finished putting the truck together I turned the pump up about a flat. No smoke. Found on the highway I could cruise 65-70 with about 2PSI and 5-700 EGTs depending on hills or how I was driving. WOT would be about 11PSI and never saw higher then 750-800EGTs (empty, truck probably will never be used to tow.)

I was bored last weekend and turned the pump up another flat. (Probably turned up about 2.5 flats and this point) Noticed more smoke, but the truck runs alot better. Alot brings up boost alot faster. Now on the highway I'm cruising 65-70mph at 4psi with 4-600EGTs. WOT i've seen 16-17PSI with EGTs still lower then 1000*F.

So my questions are, can a stock motor handle that kind of boost? Even if I keep my foot out of it, It will stay between 8-12 PSI. EGTs are still low enough. Should I be worried about high boost? Also I do drive the truck pretty hard, can the motor handle tapping the governor routinely?

After the winter I plan for headstuds. just need the truck for the snow.
 
  #2  
Old 12-15-2015, 08:40 PM
hairyboxnoogle's Avatar
hairyboxnoogle
hairyboxnoogle is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,938
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I would say you are probably at the upper limit of stock headbolts, but like you say, you dont do any towing, so should be fine.
 
  #3  
Old 12-15-2015, 09:52 PM
Macrobb's Avatar
Macrobb
Macrobb is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,860
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by killert
So my questions are, can a stock motor handle that kind of boost? Even if I keep my foot out of it, It will stay between 8-12 PSI.
The wastegated Banks kits were limited to 10 PSI, but were also designed to run on 6.9s with 7/16 bolts. I suspect you can handle a bit more than that, but you still want to get studs in there for the peace of mind.
Originally Posted by killert
Also I do drive the truck pretty hard, can the motor handle tapping the governor routinely?
As long as the governor's in the 3600 RPM or less range, you are fine. These motors can handle running against the governor for hours on end.

That being said, you will make less power at 3600 RPM than you will at 2800RPM, so you may not be gaining anything by doing this.
I know that when attempting to accelerate as quickly as possible, I'll upshift at 3K-3200, which drops the revs into the low-mid 2K range; right in the middle of the power band.
 
  #4  
Old 12-16-2015, 08:22 AM
brokeasajoke's Avatar
brokeasajoke
brokeasajoke is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC mountains
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im running a R&D 90 pump with trash injectors and the Banks wastegated turbo. I have new headgaskets and new headbolts overtorqued. Wish I had done studs but the head replacement was cutting into the bank account heavily. Im peaking 16psi and I hold it there for only a few sec.at a time. Pulling I hold it 13psi and 1050deg egt. Seems somewhere we discussed high egts were harder on headgaskets than boost(respectivly reasonable amounts). Maybe Racindrummin will chime in on this one. No intention of hijacking your thread but heres a question for the gurus. What is a safe sustained Egt for headgaskets (not pistons) so they dont get cooked?
 
  #5  
Old 12-18-2015, 05:29 PM
killert's Avatar
killert
killert is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Norristown PA
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks guys. I drove about 200 miles on the highway EGTs were under 600* most of the time at 65-75mph, peaked about 750* when really pushing it. I'll just try to keep the boost down until spring when I can get headstuds in. Hopefully, intercooler too!
 
  #6  
Old 12-18-2015, 11:27 PM
Macrobb's Avatar
Macrobb
Macrobb is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,860
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by killert
Thanks guys. I drove about 200 miles on the highway EGTs were under 600* most of the time at 65-75mph, peaked about 750* when really pushing it. I'll just try to keep the boost down until spring when I can get headstuds in. Hopefully, intercooler too!
You aren't going to get the EGTs hot unless going up a /long/ hard hill, or towing a trailer. With a turbo and engine in good tune, you have enough power to get up to speed quickly, so you just plain aren't using that much fuel/generating that much heat if you are obeying the speed limit.
 
  #7  
Old 12-19-2015, 04:04 AM
hairyboxnoogle's Avatar
hairyboxnoogle
hairyboxnoogle is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,938
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
To add to what i already said, there are plenty of 7.3s running high teens / low 20s on stock bolts with no problems. That said, blown headgaskets at the same level arent unheard of. So it really just boils down to whether or not using your full potential, is worth the possibility of changing headgaskets. If it were me id drive it like i stole it, but i like fixing things lol.
 
  #8  
Old 12-19-2015, 04:42 AM
Romel77's Avatar
Romel77
Romel77 is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Prague Czech Republic
Posts: 597
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
What is a safe sustained Egt for headgaskets (not pistons) so they dont get cooked?[/QUOTE]

900 degrees celsius, 1600 degrees Fahrenheit for the new performance reinz gasket Justin will sell after sucesfull trials. By that time your pistons are liquid.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ImConfused666
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
20
01-31-2013 04:18 PM
WesternStar
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
18
04-26-2011 12:23 AM
dieselburner6.0
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
8
07-10-2009 11:19 AM
bigblackF250
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
42
02-27-2009 10:56 PM
S.P.
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
3
06-08-2008 02:19 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Boost and EGT questions



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23 AM.