170k Too Many on a Used '11 6.7?
#1
170k Too Many on a Used '11 6.7?
Even with the Hemi, I didn't realize how dismally low the tow rating was on my Ram 1500 when I bought it. Now I am on the lookout for a diesel. Good or bad, powerstrokehelp had me looking for an '05-'07 6.0 that I could bulletproof at some point. I've also started to see some higher mileage 6.7's that might be within budget.
There's an '11 XLT about an hour away that was built 9/2010. The pictures look good but it's got 170k on it. I called about it and he said it's a one owner corporate car. The only thing on the Oasis is FSA 14E03 in June 2015.
Over the weekend another '11 was listed that's about 15 minutes away. It's a loaded Lariat with a lift on 37's with 112k on it. It looks cool enough but could kiss the parking garage goodbye and brand new 37's makes me wonder...why would they put new tires on it just to sell it? The other problem is that they have it listed for $40k which seems way high.
At $24k is the higher mileage worth the drive? I may send the local place a message and tell them they're about $10k too high and see what they say. For 15 grand I can get a nicer stereo with a backup camera and some bigger wheels and tires.
There's an '11 XLT about an hour away that was built 9/2010. The pictures look good but it's got 170k on it. I called about it and he said it's a one owner corporate car. The only thing on the Oasis is FSA 14E03 in June 2015.
Over the weekend another '11 was listed that's about 15 minutes away. It's a loaded Lariat with a lift on 37's with 112k on it. It looks cool enough but could kiss the parking garage goodbye and brand new 37's makes me wonder...why would they put new tires on it just to sell it? The other problem is that they have it listed for $40k which seems way high.
At $24k is the higher mileage worth the drive? I may send the local place a message and tell them they're about $10k too high and see what they say. For 15 grand I can get a nicer stereo with a backup camera and some bigger wheels and tires.
#3
Since it's local I stopped to look at the Lariat yesterday. Dealer was closed so I couldn't look inside but could walk around the outside without getting pestered. One thing I forgot to do was look underneath to see if the DPF was there. I didn't see any gauges on the pillar, but digital would have been easy to remove. With that lift and those tires, wouldn't surprise me if the DPF was gone and it had been running a pretty hot tune.
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Some of you guys I really want to see all the records for everything and your trucks must be immaculate. 170k on these engines is NOTHING. 10k too high?? This isn't the 6.0 section, these trucks unless they are XL and been beat up bad, don't go for that low normally. The lariat is like 10k off, but the XLT is maybe 2-3k too high? I would go look at it, drive it like normal, get underneath it and check it out. I would also ask that they do a full diagnostic at a Ford Dealership so the IDS can pull codes. Barring anything out of the ordinary, I would bet that the 170k engine you won't be able to tell. Anyways, let us know how you end up. I say go for it!
#7
I'd keep looking. An out of warranty engine failure at any mileage will set you back over $10,000 even with an aftermarket rebuild. I wouldn't touch a truck with that many miles for that price unless they were well-known to go 300,000+ miles. I think it's a bit too soon to tell, and we've seen enough to know how expensive they are to fix.
Where do you get your info from? Without a statistically significant sample size of high mileage trucks this would be impossible to say. How many 300,000+ mile 6.7L trucks are out there?
Where do you get your info from? Without a statistically significant sample size of high mileage trucks this would be impossible to say. How many 300,000+ mile 6.7L trucks are out there?
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#9
I'd keep looking. An out of warranty engine failure at any mileage will set you back over $10,000 even with an aftermarket rebuild. I wouldn't touch a truck with that many miles for that price unless they were well-known to go 300,000+ miles. I think it's a bit too soon to tell, and we've seen enough to know how expensive they are to fix.
Where do you get your info from? Without a statistically significant sample size of high mileage trucks this would be impossible to say. How many 300,000+ mile 6.7L trucks are out there?
Where do you get your info from? Without a statistically significant sample size of high mileage trucks this would be impossible to say. How many 300,000+ mile 6.7L trucks are out there?
I can link you to one for sale now. I know 3 people personally that have 186k, 193k, and 207K. These are all highway miles going back and forth but regardless. Because you personally haven't seen trucks with that mileage doesn't not make it true. Any truck is gonna cost money to rebuild, I would atleast go and look at it. The poster above me makes a good point about the tires though. There is plenty of sample size in my opinion since these trucks are going on 5 years old.
#10
Just because you know a few folks with high miles doesn't mean your average bear is good for 300,000 miles. The blanket feel-good statement based on a few people you know seems more than a little biased IMHO.
#11
Never said anything about my personal experience. The oldest of these trucks are just over five years old, and what percentage do you think drives 40-50,000 miles per year?
Just because you know a few folks with high miles doesn't mean your average bear is good for 300,000 miles. The blanket feel-good statement based on a few people you know seems more than a little biased IMHO.
Just because you know a few folks with high miles doesn't mean your average bear is good for 300,000 miles. The blanket feel-good statement based on a few people you know seems more than a little biased IMHO.
#12
When you buy a used vehicle, you are paying for more than just an engine. If the 6.7 were absolutely perfect and could be expected to last forever, how about the rest of the truck. So many people care little about their vehicles and have them consumed in a very short time. Just ask the poor cleanup guy, at the dealership, about the dog snot and baby crap. If they care so little about the interior, do you think that they cared about the rest?
#13
It all depends on overall condition. The 6.7 has proven to be good for high mileage. The tow service I use at my shop has 12 of them. All 250-300,000 on them now. They are about to be replaced because that is their cycle. I have no problem buying high mileage trucks. I usually do. I bought my 05 6.0 with 180k, my 08 190k. This is my first new truck in ages. Have it well inspected and go from there. Take the opinion out and get some facts.
#14
I'd look for a real low mileage 11 one owner from the original owner or get a newer one... I traded my bought new 11 at 125k and it had trans issues,a/c evap issues,powersteering issue,turbo went at 100000. Plus Ford changed glowplug design and other hardware.
Definitively don't by a mod 11.. You'll end up putting many more thousands into it.
Definitively don't by a mod 11.. You'll end up putting many more thousands into it.
#15
I agree with Tofan. There is a reason these engines are so heavily built; even the Ford diesel supplement talks about diesel engines being designed to accumulate much higher mileages than the gas engines. Unfortunately, most people are used to buying gas engines, and see 170k miles as nearly the end. I think the price needs to reflect the mileage, but if the rest of the truck is clean and in order, this truck should still bring in considerably more money than a same-age gas truck with less than 100k miles. There is no reason under the sun why the 6.7L should not run to 300k or beyond based upon internal design.