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Here's the threads I remembered where a forum member had his 17" widow makers, just like yours, remade with tubeless one piece 17" rims. Stu

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Ahhh that running engine is sweet music. That high fan water pump is hard to find so have it rebuilt if it springs a leak & don't throw it away. Some people will simply change the timing cover to a 1956-up to make matters easier but I love the sight of the originals.

I might add the belt is available thru Rock Auto--at least it was a year ago.
 

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Thanks Stu for the pictures and Thread links.They look very nice Not sure what shipping would cost to Nebraska? Better start saving my penny's!

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That high fan water pump is hard to find so have it rebuilt if it springs a leak & don't throw it away.
I already had the water pump rebuilt. O'Reillys sent it somewhere in Pennsylvania. It cost about $75 and was very happy with the outcome.
 
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Worked on getting the rear drums and brakes off today. Tossed the wheel puller to the side, took the 8 nuts off the center hub, pulled the axle out, took the two large nuts/washer off and pried the drum/hub assembly off. Like usual, the first one took a couple of hours, the second one took 15 minutes. The brakes actually looked fairly good but all parts had surface rust and dirty. No broken springs and the adjuster working with a little WD. Now I'm hoping and praying the drums can be turned. They are deeply scored. I guess I'll find out when I take them to the Truck Brake and Clutch shop on Monday!

I stopped by the Upholstery shop today with my seat. I was presently surprised he quoted me at $400 if he did it all or $150 labor if I buy the supplies from someone else. I think that answers my question of whether or not I do it myself. I have never used his services before but he has been in the same location for over 40 years. That should say something.

The last picture shows a metal cover on the back plate to access the adjusters. Does any one know if this part is available? The left side is missing this part.

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Dave, glad you got it apart without breaking your puller

Sometimes drums have a dimension range cast into them, otherwise it may be in the manual? You may need that information for the brake shop to be able to know if they can cut them back.

I don't know if anyone ever sleeves drum brakes but that might be something to look into for older trucks like these as in the future if you need to have them turned again it may not be possible.
 
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I don't have any business telling anyone anything about restoring an old truck. Looks like you're making great progress,but a couple of things that might help. Try using PB Blaster instead of WD 40 to help loosen bolts and get some rust converter help stop the rust. Comes in spray or brush on liquid.
 
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Had to mow the lawn and a couple "honey dew" projects today, but did manage to get my seat stripped down to the bones. It appears in good shape with no broken springs. Made quick work out of it with my handy-dandy extra small bolt cutters.




 
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Rebuild Progress Report

I am at a stand still with the rear breaks. No luck finding different rear drums to replace the ones that are wore out. Haven't given up completely yet. So I thought I would move to the fronts. Every thing came apart fairly good, just a lot of rust of course. I was pleasantly surprised to find the drums in fairly good shape and am crossing my fingers that there is still a little "meat on the bone" when I take them in to get turned. I have done a little pre-checking and feel good about getting parts for the fronts. I then proceeded to the brake lines and master cylinder. I will be replacing all the brake lines and cylinders to keep it original.

I have to admit that the rears(13') are going to be a challenge. Since the work life to this truck is over do you think I could get by putting a smaller rear end under it? Any advise is appreciated.












 
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I am at a stand still with the rear breaks. I have to admit that the rears(13') are going to be a challenge. Since the work life to this truck is over do you think I could get by putting a smaller rear end under it? Any advise is appreciated.
Have you chased after the Studebaker suppliers? I'd also suggest looking for good used drums on the Studebaker forums?

Within the Ford family, there is no smaller application that uses the 6 x 7.25" pattern. You could investigate finding if drums are available for a later SRW F-350 application up to 1966 then work backwards to find one of them to donate its axle. The same could be investigated for comparable Dodge, IHC, and Studebaker donors. With the IHCs and Studebakers, the 6 lug was used on 3/4 tons as well as tonners.

In all other axle swaps you'd be changing bolt patterns. Some, like Gary Sisson on his 59 F-350, have done that and converted the front hubs to the 8 x 6.5" pattern at the same time. If that is a direction you'd want to pursue we can dig up Gary's old threads describing his modifications. Stu
 
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Thanks again Stu! I have not had time to go to the Studebaker site, but headed there soon. I will definitely need to make a decision on my direction at some point or I'm just going to have a garage full of parts! ha ha By the way I did buy that 19.5" wheel on the CL ad that you sent me. I figured it was a good investment even if I don't use it. One down, three to go.
 
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Thanks again Stu! I have not had time to go to the Studebaker site, but headed there soon. I will definitely need to make a decision on my direction at some point or I'm just going to have a garage full of parts! ha ha By the way I did buy that 19.5" wheel on the CL ad that you sent me. I figured it was a good investment even if I don't use it. One down, three to go.
It might have been said before, or in a different way, but your project truck is by definition a difficult restoration. One of the most difficult, imho, in much the same way the M-Hs challenge those of us who are so inflicted. Creative search methods are gonna be your life, and it could well be that donor trucks are in your future.

Glad you snapped up that 19.5". I'll keep looking. Stu

Edit - forget if I linked this dealer that lists the 6 lug 19.5s. Stu

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The smell of paint????

Finished removing the brake lines and Master Cylinder this morning about the time they called and said my Drums were done. Good timing and fast turn around. Picked up the drums and dropped off the brake lines at the same place. I'm so lucky to have a reliable brake and clutch shop near me. Couldn't wait to get home to paint the first item of my restore. It wasn't much, but it was enough to give me some encouragement to plow ahead. It was a good day!

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Front Brake install

Took advantage of a rare, cool, rainy July day today. Reassembled the front hub/drum, repacked bearings/hub, and reinstalled on the spindles. I was able to reuse the bearings but replaced the seals. The old felt style seals were replaced with new rubber lined new ones. Relined brake shoes, new cylinders, and small parts all cleaned with wire wheel reinstalled. Next step is to move towards the already torn apart rear end and install the new master cylinder and brake lines. I am still looking for a pair of rear drums to replace my worn out ones. I have a couple of leads and have been in contact with a couple of members about getting replacements. If all falls through I plan to put the old ones on until I can find replacements.

On a side note, I have obtained four 19.5" non widow maker wheels that are currently getting cleaned up and powder coated. I'm also in the process of shopping for tires that will fit my new (used) wheels. I sure wish that money tree would start producing more! $$$$$$$








 
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Licence and fuel tank

At some point, I needed to get my Truck Licence Plates so I thought today would be a good day to do that. In Nebraska you can use Vintage plates as long as they are the original plate in the original color. Last week I had searched on Ebay and found a pair from 1955 from the same county I live in. So I thought "lets go for it". I pulled out the Title and registration and realized I had not changed it since my Dad passed away 20 years ago. Him and I where both on the Title. Then I noticed that it said "1954" on the Title, for year. My Truck is a 55'. Off to the County DMV I went. I knew I would need a Death Certificate. After some time on the phone with the State DMV they were able to change the year and issue a new Title. The rest of the process would have to be done at the State DMV, by mail or in person. They also reminded me I had to have insurance on the Truck to get it re-registered. A quick call to my Insurance Agent and I had a proof of Insurance Emailed to me. Luckily I live near Lincoln where the State Office is located. Off to Lincoln I go, with all my paperwork and Vintage plates in hand(They have to physically see and approve the plates). Once there, the process took about 15 minutes and I am now street legal. The bad thing is my Truck is up on blocks and out of service. Hopefully by Fall!!!!!




In Nebraska, Car and Trucks have different style plates but the same color. This is a Car plate. I am still on the hunt for a Truck Plate. I know, it's kind of an insult! Hee Hee

I also pulled the Gas Tank yesterday and took it in to the Radiator shop today. It still had around 5 gallons of "liquid" in it. When I shook it, the sound of rust and gunk could be heard. The baffles prevented me from getting it all out. I pretty much knew what they were going to tell me. Cost would be around $150 with no guarantees of getting all the rust out. New plastic ones are $225 @ Mid-fifty, so that is probably the route I will go.




 
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Nice plates! Congrats. So having it registered and all the paperwork completed might give you more incentive to get her finished!

How can you tell your plate is from your County? Did they stick the "historical" sticker on your plate?

I think I am going to go that route. I have a 1954 PA truck plate in good shape. All I have to do is send them a picture of it. If approved then it is a lifetime registration but it has the same conditions as a vehicle with antique plates. Oh and in PA we only use one plate.
 

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