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F350 7.5 codes 542 332 211 help!

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F350 7.5 codes 542 332 211 help!

My 89 F350 460 has codes 542 332 and 211. The fuel pump also runs constantly no matter what tank is selected. The distributor is brand new. Any ideas where to start?
 
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anything at all?
 
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Quick question...

Are you using an OBD1 Code tool to retrieve codes or are you using the jumper wire method?

The reason I ask is that I have never heard of 3-digit codes on an '89, and 460 in the same sentence. Most trucks weren't 3-digit until early to mid-nineties.

If the fuel pump doesn't shut off when the truck is cycled to the run position after 1-2 seconds, that usually points to a failed PCM.
It could also be the fuel pump relay is loose or corroded.

Just a few ideas. Please post back so we can help you further.
 
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The fuel pump also runs constantly no matter what tank is selected.
Classic symptoms of a failed computer (PCM).
 
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Originally Posted by timbersteel
Quick question...

Are you using an OBD1 Code tool to retrieve codes or are you using the jumper wire method?

The reason I ask is that I have never heard of 3-digit codes on an '89, and 460 in the same sentence. Most trucks weren't 3-digit until early to mid-nineties.
Three digit codes started in 1991. The codes makes some sense in light of the stated symptoms. Obviously the PCM has been replaced with a later model IMHO.
 
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Three digit codes started in 1991. The codes makes some sense in light of the stated symptoms. Obviously the PCM has been replaced with a later model IMHO.
That was what I was thinking. Weird to think a later PCM, one for 460, would be in the truck now with 3-digit codes. But I know with enough manipulation, it can be possible.
 
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Codes were obtained with jumper wire and counting flashes on the dash. The check engine light bulb was removed by the previous owner (gee wonder why).
 
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Originally Posted by timbersteel
That was what I was thinking. Weird to think a later PCM, one for 460, would be in the truck now with 3-digit codes. But I know with enough manipulation, it can be possible.
Plug-n-play up to 1993. After that the ignition changed from Push Start to CCD so the wiring is different between the PCM and the Ignition Control Module (ICM). 1995 and up moved the protection diodes (E4OD) from the solenoid pack to the PCM, so more modifications needed to make it work.
 
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Very interesting, Ill pull the pcm out and post up the codes from it. Would it be possible that since its a later pcm and I have the early ICM that could cause my 211 PIP code?
 
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Very interesting, Ill pull the pcm out and post up the codes from it. Would it be possible that since its a later pcm and I have the early ICM that could cause my 211 PIP code?
No. The PIP circuit stayed the same. It's how the ICM is triggered to control the dwell. Push Start versions uses a signal from the starter relay to use a longer dwell time. CCD (Computer Controlled Dwell) is exactly that...the computer controls the dwell time.

Once you replaced the distributor/PIP did you clear the codes from memory? Code 211 is a stored code....
 
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The codes were cleared via disconnecting battery for one day and rechecking codes to see if it was still there. After driving it a few times the code returned but it only comes up under the second "group" of codes. Like 542 comes up under the first group by itself, then it goes to the next grouping where 542, 332, and 211 all come up.
 
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The "second group" are the stored codes. The computer is sensing there is still a problem with the PIP circuit.

Code 211: Two or more successive erratic Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) pulses occurred.

Code 332: EGR valve opening not detected

Code 542: Fuel pump circuit failur

In light of the constant running fuel pump you have a bad PCM so take the codes with a grain of salt.
 
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By the way some 1989s with a E4OD an a 460 did have the three 3-digit codes.
I have ran into this with the F53 and I would think some PU trucks would have them too.
 
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Good to know Subford! I didn't know that. Good see it has been encountered before.
 
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But they had have the E4OD to have the 3-digit codes.
 


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