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Clean and unhurt, nothing better. Have you also checked the header area over the windshield for rodent damage? It had lots of decades sitting on the praire. But looks pretty good in the picture. My AZ Ď52ís header is good, but the WI Ď50 Iím parting out now had severe damage there. And the original cab on my Ď51 is long gone. Havenít checked my donor Ď51 and need to.

Have you figured out from the areas around the windows what your original color was? Probably Silvertone Gray or Sea Island Green. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by 52 4x4 View Post
That's great! I've had my new glass and seals for years, but after reading horror stories here on FTE, have been afraid of hidden rust, seals too small, or glass too big to fit. Sitting in a field for years in OR could be a lot worse than in MT, though! I think I've changed my rear glass at least twice when we were hauling lots of firewood (I see your stack in the background) but can't remember what the opening looked like - might not be too bad though, since I never replaced the original seal. - Bob
You never know for sure when it comes to these trucks I'm finding out, you might get lucky but the question is, how badly do you want to know?
 
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Clean and unhurt, nothing better. Have you also checked the header area over the windshield for rodent damage? It had lots of decades sitting on the praire. But looks pretty good in the picture. My AZ Ď52ís header is good, but the WI Ď50 Iím parting out now had severe damage there. And the original cab on my Ď51 is long gone. Havenít checked my donor Ď51 and need to.

Have you figured out from the areas around the windows what your original color was? Probably Silvertone Gray or Sea Island Green. Stu
No I haven't checked for rodent damage up there yet but I will be doing that as part of the clean up process. With the lack of substantial rodent evidence so far I'm very hopeful about the header area. Sea Island Green is the original color and I believe the cowl stamping called that out as well.
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and day my heater core is in good shape concidering I did a heater hose by-pass before I added any water to the radiator prior to first start up!!!

Tipped heater on itsi side to remove some screws and git yet another pleasant surprise
 
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I have a question about the heater in my truck. All I found where a switch was supposed to be was a hot wire from the ignition switch and a single wire from the heater, no cable for heat control, and a single block on the underside of the dash that says "BLOWER". Question is were these heaters multiple speed or single speed fan motors?
 
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I have a question about the heater in my truck. All I found where a switch was supposed to be was a hot wire from the ignition switch and a single wire from the heater, no cable for heat control, and a single block on the underside of the dash that says "BLOWER". Question is were these heaters multiple speed or single speed fan motors?
Dave: Mine doesn't have the original heater, but it's a Ford heater (at least has an "F" on the front.) It has a single speed motor. The original switch may have been a "push pull" type - maybe with a resistor in it that provided (2) speeds. I think my parts manual is missing the pages with the heater switch. I have a switch from NAPA in mine that has a rheostat and goes from OFF to FULL speed as you rotate it clockwise - the bulb inside goes from bright to dim as you turn it to decrease the fan speed. The switch fits in the stock bracket marked "BLOWER" just to the right of the IGN Switch. The stock "Heat Control" is a manual valve at the water outlet near the middle of the RH cylinder head. My truck came to me with a hand Throttle **** and cable, but has a car carburetor. I'm not a smoker, so removed the cigarette lighter below the ash tray and put the Throttle cable in it's place - then hooked the cable to an "in-line" hot water control valve for late 60's Ford pickups, Broncos, etc. Mac's has those "Blower" switches that look identical to mine, but for some reason they're $30 plus now. Not sure if DC lists them or not. Probably they're imported, and not sure whether they have 6V or 12V bulbs in them. I've got an unused spare that I'd make you a deal on, unless you have to have the Genuine FORD type switch. Mine just has an inline type fuse holder between the ACC terminal of the IGN switch and Blower switch. The other terminal leads straight to the heater motor. The 5 Star Extra Cabs with "fresh-air heaters" had a small panel with a switch and ***** to pull for fresh air vs. recirculated, and also defrost control, I believe. Here's a couple pictures of what mine looks like. "T" for Throttle - now means "Temperature." - Bob


"Blower" switch beneath left side of radio.

"T" - Temperature control cable to water valve.
 

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Thanks Bob, I would like to try and get an original set up since that is the direction I'm going with the truck but I do appreciate your offer. The PO just twisted a couple bare wires together so it doesn't look like it would take much to hook something up. Thanks again.
 
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The switch I have is just like the one in this link from Mac's: https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_t...1-thru-f3.html

You just take it out of it's bracket and put it in the hole where yours is missing - your (2) wires hook directly to terminals on the back of the switch.

The Ford switch you want is part no. 1C-18578-A - I found it in this FTE Thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...an-switch.html

It looks like C&G might have it available. The second line of the parts list shows that it's correct for your '51 and models up through '55. You may need to get the **** and bullet connectors separately. - Bob
 
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There is a member on here - goes by Firstrider. He restores our old truck heaters & he would have all of
the parts that you are missing.

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There is a member on here - goes by Firstrider. He restores our old truck heaters & he would have all of
the parts that you are missing.

Good luck up there.

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Thanks Ben, I'll give him shout.
 
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Got the heater core back from the radiator shop all cleaned out and with no leaks. A little paint and some parts cleaning and back in the truck it goes.

Just need some cleaning

Ready for a quick coat of paint
 
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New windshield and back glass is in!!! Needs a little more cleaning but still looks nice. Was all set to do the install and chickened out taking it to a local glass shop for a small fee and one day's time.

 
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Aw now Dave, with all that other stuff you dove into a little glass scarred you off. Slow and easy, its not that hard. But hey it looks great anyhow. And curios on your heater core. Did you attempt any pressure test yourself or just sent to radiator show to have them confirm all is good?

 
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Yeah I know, but.... As far as the heater goes, I just took it straight to the radiator shop and had it boiled out and tested. Works great by the way!!!
 
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