Facts About the TorqShift-G in the 2017 Ford F-250 Super Duty
#17
I agree with you there. I don't agree with putting a "lighter duty" transmission in the F250. Seems like a move to cut costs and water the product down in my book.
A Super Duty should be a Super Duty, not have some transmission from the F150 with the 6.2, even if it was a Raptor transmission that bolted behind the 6.2 before. I would not call a Raptor a towing machine.
#18
As Karl said, having a reason other than legal limits to opt for the F350 does make some sense. While no one complains about an underpriced and overbuild F250, it does make sense to save money and build it to spec. If the F350 keeps the current trans it will be interesting to see if price range spreads, but at least now it will be justified! It'll help keep cost down for folks who just want a big truck and government agencies who buy fleets of F250s when they could do the same job in an Escape. More choices is a good thing in my book, even if it's a choice I personally see defeated by the F150 specs for anyone doing most real work.
#19
Facts About the TorqShift-G in the 2017 Ford F-250 Super Duty
Originally Posted by Louisville
I don't think the TorqShift-6 worked all that well behind the 6.2L.
Denny
#21
We will have to wait and see
I like having the bigger truck for when I pull even that it's not daily, weekly or monthly.
I like having the bigger truck for when I pull even that it's not daily, weekly or monthly.
#22
I have a fleet of them, 12's and 13's, 6.2L/TorqShift/3.77 rear ends. We find this combination is slow to upshift, slow to downshift, and tends to pause between gears. 'Clunky' is the best way to describe them. I suspect part of the problem is inertia in the gear train, all those heavy components designed for the 6.7L Powerstroke are just slow to react at times. It would probably be better if we had ordered the trucks with 4.30 gears, at least that way the engine would be deeper into it's powerband (6.2L's aint much at low r.p.m.'s). Not really a surprise, but the TorqShift is great behind the Powerstroke. To date we have had no TorqShift failures in any of our units. Just by virtue of the fact Ford has decided to change the transmission in 6.2L F-250's suggests there is an issue, the new transmission is probably better suited for the application. I think the TorqShift is still used behind the 6.2L in F-350's, isn't it?
#23
I have a fleet of them, 12's and 13's, 6.2L/TorqShift/3.77 rear ends. We find this combination is slow to upshift, slow to downshift, and tends to pause between gears. 'Clunky' is the best way to describe them. I suspect part of the problem is inertia in the gear train, all those heavy components designed for the 6.7L Powerstroke are just slow to react at times. It would probably be better if we had ordered the trucks with 4.30 gears, at least that way the engine would be deeper into it's powerband (6.2L's aint much at low r.p.m.'s). Not really a surprise, but the TorqShift is great behind the Powerstroke. To date we have had no TorqShift failures in any of our units. Just by virtue of the fact Ford has decided to change the transmission in 6.2L F-250's suggests there is an issue, the new transmission is probably better suited for the application. I think the TorqShift is still used behind the 6.2L in F-350's, isn't it?
Denny
#24
#25
Anyone remember in the '97-'03 gen F-150's, you could get an F-250 in that body style. I was a light duty F-250 but still used 8 lug wheels. It seems that the G-transmission would be a great fit for a similar application.
It'll b e interesting to see the towing and payload differences between the F-250 and F-350 SRW with the 6R140.
The F-150 will migrate into a 10 speed transmission in 2017 (supposedly). I wonder if this is all paving the way for a similar migration in the heavier trucks.
It'll b e interesting to see the towing and payload differences between the F-250 and F-350 SRW with the 6R140.
The F-150 will migrate into a 10 speed transmission in 2017 (supposedly). I wonder if this is all paving the way for a similar migration in the heavier trucks.
#26
I have a fleet of them, 12's and 13's, 6.2L/TorqShift/3.77 rear ends. We find this combination is slow to upshift, slow to downshift, and tends to pause between gears. 'Clunky' is the best way to describe them. I suspect part of the problem is inertia in the gear train, all those heavy components designed for the 6.7L Powerstroke are just slow to react at times. It would probably be better if we had ordered the trucks with 4.30 gears, at least that way the engine would be deeper into it's powerband (6.2L's aint much at low r.p.m.'s). Not really a surprise, but the TorqShift is great behind the Powerstroke. To date we have had no TorqShift failures in any of our units. Just by virtue of the fact Ford has decided to change the transmission in 6.2L F-250's suggests there is an issue, the new transmission is probably better suited for the application. I think the TorqShift is still used behind the 6.2L in F-350's, isn't it?
#27
#29
Heck, at this point putting 8 lug wheels on an F150 and calling is an F250 might make sense, the Max Tow package shames all gasser SDs made before 2005, and many made after. And Ford is losing to the Colorado/Canyon segment because there isn't anything there to compete with. Two small diesels coming to the 1/4 and 1/2 ton market next year from GM and Nissan, and Ford isn't even IN that market in the US.
#30
The (97-99 IIRC) F-250 LD used the stupid 7-lug wheels Ford likes to trot out on occasion, like on the HD towing package F150s somewhere between 09-11 most recently? It was weird to call it an F250, but maybe they were bridging the gap on the late-to-production SD causing the missed 98 model year for the HD lineup. Ford apparently learned and made an "HD F150" the next time they displayed those awesome and impossible to replace 7-lug wheels.
Heck, at this point putting 8 lug wheels on an F150 and calling is an F250 might make sense, the Max Tow package shames all gasser SDs made before 2005, and many made after. And Ford is losing to the Colorado/Canyon segment because there isn't anything there to compete with. Two small diesels coming to the 1/4 and 1/2 ton market next year from GM and Nissan, and Ford isn't even IN that market in the US.
Heck, at this point putting 8 lug wheels on an F150 and calling is an F250 might make sense, the Max Tow package shames all gasser SDs made before 2005, and many made after. And Ford is losing to the Colorado/Canyon segment because there isn't anything there to compete with. Two small diesels coming to the 1/4 and 1/2 ton market next year from GM and Nissan, and Ford isn't even IN that market in the US.
Supposedly Ford and the UAW are in negotiations right now to convert the plant that assembles the Focus and it's Hybrid cousin to the Global Ranger assembly plant. Maybe Ford will hear the call and bring a small diesel with it.
I love my ecoboost and likely wouldn't trade it for any engine that I've ever owned in the past. It pulls hard like a diesel with gasoline maintenance, win-win. Not everyone is is as convinced as me that it's the answer.