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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
WOW... You may be hosed.

the 03' doesn't have the common STC fittings you read in most posts that pertain to leaks and no-starts. I also believe there are no stand pipes and dummy plugs. If they are replacing the pipes, that requires a tranny pull... if i'm thinking straight... maybe not?

What was the ICP reading they reported to you as "low" and the reason for the pipes replacements? Someone sit down with you and explain exactly what needed done and why?

Not trying to be nosy... just educated.... so we don't read about another "My Dealer did this"!!???

I've been behind at work so I didn't have the opportunity to talk to him about it more than briefly, he brought out a diagram though and showed me everything he would be touching and I trusted him. I will post exactly what the invoice says when I'm done to show where all the dollars went for anyone else in this situation, maybe they can use it as advice.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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Bad news

Well....truck isn't back.
Long story short is its only making 450 icp cranking. Icp and ipr have been ruled out.

Dealership will call me tomorrow with new info. Might be a branch tube. How many languages can you say oh **** in?

No need to plan the elephant before killing the cow, but right now I have 2 grand into a truck that won't fire, and I'm almost out of dollars I can use.

Just an update
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fellenz
Well....truck isn't back.
Long story short is its only making 450 icp cranking. Icp and ipr have been ruled out.

Dealership will call me tomorrow with new info. Might be a branch tube. How many languages can you say oh **** in?

No need to plan the elephant before killing the cow, but right now I have 2 grand into a truck that won't fire, and I'm almost out of dollars I can use.

Just an update
Sorry to hear... typically in that year truck it's the pump.

Time to get tough!
Ask for parts to see the branch tube, I'm pretty sure the tranny has to come out and normally if it goes, the cover is damaged. 03 doesn't have an STC fitting, think you called it a tube connector? And $2k is rediculous for just some gaskets and orings.

They fixed all the things that leak according to them... that leaves a pump not making enough pressure... get'm
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 06:30 PM
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I'm going in tomorrow ready to have a discussion and a layout of EXACTLY what has been done thus far to justify the price, and numbers going forward.

I've already lost a job due to them taking longer than told, I'm not exactly happy.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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I'm going in tomorrow ready to have a discussion and a layout of EXACTLY what has been done thus far to justify the price, and numbers going forward.

I've already lost a job due to them taking longer than told, I'm not exactly happy.
Ask them if they air tested it. That would have ruled out a whole bunch of BS.

I would definitely want the old parts for proof and if they couldn't provide them, then they weren't changed. See where I'm going? Good defense for YOU.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
Ask them if they air tested it. That would have ruled out a whole bunch of BS.

I would definitely want the old parts for proof and if they couldn't provide them, then they weren't changed. See where I'm going? Good defense for YOU.
EXACTLY.
Not that this means anything, but the tech working on it seems very knowledgeable on the 6 litre, the guys at the desk are rude, arrogant and ignorant...but the tech seems decent enough.

He tells me if he ends up pulling the heads and I slip him studs and an egr delete, he'll install them under the radar no charge. This being said...I'm not sure I can swing that new price tag as it is and they still haven't called me back with info a day later than promised.


**** ...oh wait this forum is kiddo friendly and I failed french.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Studs.... what the hell???!!!!

If anybody is slipping anything to anybody... it's to you for $$$$$.

What about the air test? You had low pressure not blown head gaskets. Get your butt over there before they take possession of the house! I wouldn't trust them any further, they are out to take your $$$$$ and are going to try and replace everything until they get it right.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
Studs.... what the hell???!!!!

If anybody is slipping anything to anybody... it's to you for $$$$$.

What about the air test? You had low pressure not blown head gaskets. Get your butt over there before they take possession of the house! I wouldn't trust them any further, they are out to take your $$$$$ and are going to try and replace everything until they get it right.
I am of the same mind set. They are throwing parts at it on your dime!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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Woah woah woah guys...Studs are unrelated to the fix, all I'm saying is I would stud it if the heads came up since there's no labor to install them over regular bolts. That's all they're not telling me they need to be replaced to fix the issue.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 03:42 PM
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Woah woah woah guys...Studs are unrelated to the fix, all I'm saying is I would stud it if the heads came up since there's no labor to install them over regular bolts. That's all they're not telling me they need to be replaced to fix the issue.
Would love to hear where your at with this.... ???
 
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 04:26 PM
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He can't talk right now, eyes closed tight, mouth full of pillow.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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My appologies all, it's been a busy week so life took away my computer privileges.

I'll start from the top,
1.Went in 9/12, found leaking stand pipe, replaced all hoses and connectors associated with it. Still didn't have cranking psi so Ford told them to replace ipr and dead head everything. Turns out it was hpop as I originally thought.
2.Realizing their mistake, they installed hpop and an oil cooler (high deltas) for no labor charge.
3.Moving forward, I get a call to pick it up, total bill was 3324.87 for all mentioned above.
4. Pulled out of lot, something very wrong, not making boost and terrible sound. (I have another thread on this currently) Turns out the oil supply line to the turbo became disconnected and trashed turbo. "It was fine" when tech test drove it after fixing the line.
5. Immediately turn around and give it back, told me they would call me today.

6 and current step, Talked to them, they were very apologetic and said they would eat the cost for a new turbo, time of completion is still in the air.

Sooooo lots of BS, but they are owning up to any and all mistakes and to in the end I'll have a turbo, oil cooler, hpop etc for the above price.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 10:15 AM
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two weeks without a truck... you are a patient man! At least they are fixing it and you get all that stuff... like Christmas in September!

Coolant flush before new cooler... maybe to much to ask.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Not sure how they diagnosed that for $100? Can an air test do that? I thought you had to open the HPOP up to see a bad HPOP line.

In an 2003 model, that HPOP will fail (unless its been replaced already). Its just a matter of when.

is it possible the dealership is pricing a HPOP replacement and was less than honest on the diagnosis so you wouldn't be tempted to do the work yourself?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanStein
Not sure how they diagnosed that for $100? Can an air test do that? I thougmlht you had to open the HPOP up to see a bad HPOP line.

In an 2003 model, that HPOP will fail (unless its been replaced already). Its just a matter of when.

is it possible the dealership is pricing a HPOP replacement and was less than honest on the diagnosis so you wouldn't be tempted to do the work yourself?

I think the diagnosis consisted of going until finding the first possible thing wrong. The independent shop said it could take up to a day to diagnose at 80/hr....hindsight 20/20 it doesn't seem so bad.
 
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