Leaf Suspension Upgrade, or "I'm All Shook Up"
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Leaf Suspension Upgrade, or "I'm All Shook Up"
So I have this dreaded piece of road that I travel from time to time, and a few members here will know of it: I-5 South of Southcenter, near Seattle's Sea Tac airport. It's the cement slab seams that I'm talking about - they are about the distance of Stinky's wheelbase. When both axles cross a seam simultaneously, and at the right speed - you get a pretty violent oscillation in the truck. I say violent because you can actually see the truck hop, not just feel it. I'm not saying the tires come off the ground, but the suspension is resonating with the road - rattling the loose change between my ears.
Stinky's suspension: He had axle wrap with the engine mods, and adding ladder bars made a huge unexpected improvement in the ride - the rear is more stable and the shifts grew silky. I wonder about the condition of the rear springs. The front springs sag 2" from factory specs - they are otherwise known as "flat". Any more sag and the springs will be inverted.
I obviously need front springs, and that will be addressed - but what to do to help the ride and the springs from sagging the next time? I was ordering some stuff through Riffraff Diesel, and I stumbled upon the Roadmaster Active Suspension.
I haven't looked to see if this would fit on the front, and I'm not sure it's a good idea with the steering system up there. This looks like it would immediately soften the ride in the rear, but that's going off a 1" rise announced on a Youtube vid. I clearly need more input here. Anyone?
Stinky's suspension: He had axle wrap with the engine mods, and adding ladder bars made a huge unexpected improvement in the ride - the rear is more stable and the shifts grew silky. I wonder about the condition of the rear springs. The front springs sag 2" from factory specs - they are otherwise known as "flat". Any more sag and the springs will be inverted.
I obviously need front springs, and that will be addressed - but what to do to help the ride and the springs from sagging the next time? I was ordering some stuff through Riffraff Diesel, and I stumbled upon the Roadmaster Active Suspension.
I haven't looked to see if this would fit on the front, and I'm not sure it's a good idea with the steering system up there. This looks like it would immediately soften the ride in the rear, but that's going off a 1" rise announced on a Youtube vid. I clearly need more input here. Anyone?
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Those aren't going to help you. They're primarily to assist in keeping the frame and spring difference as great as possible while towing.
I know what you mean about I-5, we have I-20 and its about the same!
Your tires are probably leaving the roadway. Maybe not at the same time. I know my truck will "change lanes" if I don't watch it. That one piece axle, leaf springs up front, and the 5k engine is a lot of energy in a lot of directions hitting a bump. More-less expansion joints in the roadway at 50 mph.
My first 7.3 was a 2003. The next day I ran it on I-95 in D.C. and I thought to my self "What the hell did I buy?" It was all over the place.
I know what you mean about I-5, we have I-20 and its about the same!
Your tires are probably leaving the roadway. Maybe not at the same time. I know my truck will "change lanes" if I don't watch it. That one piece axle, leaf springs up front, and the 5k engine is a lot of energy in a lot of directions hitting a bump. More-less expansion joints in the roadway at 50 mph.
My first 7.3 was a 2003. The next day I ran it on I-95 in D.C. and I thought to my self "What the hell did I buy?" It was all over the place.
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2 good options for the rear. One I have tried ; the Sulastic shackle replacements. I have the old B.F. Goodrich Velvet rides which are the same thing. Sulastic even makes them for the front of our trucks...I may give them a try also. Ànother option that works are the PMF 08 up spring hangers. These let you bolt on the longer leafs from the current generation trucks, offering better ride and load handling. Using both of these system will give a noticeable improvement in ride IMO.
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We have some of those slab poured concrete roads in Iowa also they can be especially harsh on the ride, my 06 F350 was brutal on good old F90 before I replaced the shocks. I'm not going to claim it rides like Lincoln on that same road with new shocks but it is completely planted and much more in the tolerateable ride spectrum.
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One other note on the Sulastic/Velvet Rides is that they seem to have good durability. I put mine on the truck when it was brand new and just within the last year, I've noticed the ride degrade a little, so I think almost anyone can expect 10+ years. I'll change them out when (if) I do the late model spring swap. I've never seen anyone post an experience with the front Sulastics, but I think that those with an X code spring might be an interesting combo.
Sulastic. SC-15 Sulastic Shackle for Front Axle (Lift 1/2")
'08 Spring Hanger Conversion for '99-07
I don't even know if this would qualify as a buckzooka blast, but it could be a start; maybe some Fox 2.5's?
Sulastic. SC-15 Sulastic Shackle for Front Axle (Lift 1/2")
'08 Spring Hanger Conversion for '99-07
I don't even know if this would qualify as a buckzooka blast, but it could be a start; maybe some Fox 2.5's?
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air ride
I didn't buy this...... rather i am fabricating something similar.
I think it's the only way of getting rid of the dreaded hop.
http://www.autoflexsuspensions.com/
I think it's the only way of getting rid of the dreaded hop.
http://www.autoflexsuspensions.com/
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I didn't buy this...... rather i am fabricating something similar.
I think it's the only way of getting rid of the dreaded hop.
Auto Flex and Trailer Flex Air-Ride Suspension Systems
I think it's the only way of getting rid of the dreaded hop.
Auto Flex and Trailer Flex Air-Ride Suspension Systems
Auto Flex Air Ride Suspension
Price/ea:
$3,740.00
cant blame you at that price.....
#11
The roadmaster kit sounds like what I need, my springs were almost inverted last week with a load of gravel and materials on my truck and I often feel a bump as though the rears are bottoming out. I'd STILL like onboard air though, has anybody ever installed an engine driven compressor and can you run air/ tools and bags all from one system like this?
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