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Rag joint? Shifter bushings?

I just picked up 1970 f100 260cu i6 three on the tree 2wd. I'm having trouble finding a rag joint and shift linkage bushings. Are there parts still out there? Is there a fix using other none factory parts? The truck runs great just a little slopy.
 
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I just picked up 1970 F100 240 I-6 three on the tree 2wd. I'm having trouble finding a rag joint and shift linkage bushings.
C9UZ-3A525-A (replaced C9TZ-3A525-B & D3TZ-3A525-A) .. Steering Coupler (aka rag joint) / Obsolete

Applications: 1969/74 F100/250 2WD & F350 with or without P/S / 1969/74 Econoline / 1975 F100/250 2WD & F350 without P/S

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any. Available from Dorman Products, sold by auto parts stores.
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Bottom of the steering column underneath the hood are the two manual control selector levers that the shift rods from the trans attach to.

In each lever is a rubber bushing & insulator. The bushings age crack, the shift lever has play and/or binds up.

C5TZ-7343-A .. Bushing & Insulator Kit / Obsolete

Applications: 1965/72 F100/250 2WD with 3 M/T

SUSANVILLE FORD in Susanville CA has 1 = 530-257-2137.

TOWER MOTOR CO. in Coos Bay OR has 2 = 541-269-5062.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 12 = 800-543-4959.

PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has 22 = 888-727-0418.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 713 = 800-476-9653.
 
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Great info. I'll jump on that in the morning. Or Monday because nothing will be open tomorrow. Happy fourth🙌
 
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Old 07-05-2015, 02:22 PM
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anybody ever use one of these polyurethane pieces for the rag joint fix? What's so special about polyurethane?

Amazon.com: Ingalls Engineering 84952 Flex Coupling Disc: Automotive Amazon.com: Ingalls Engineering 84952 Flex Coupling Disc: Automotive
 
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Rag joint, so called because the rubber section was made of bias ply tire carcass that has cloth threads in it.

Auto parts stores sell a replacement disc, but R & R'ing it can be a real b!tch.
 
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Is the urathane piece an insert or a complete part?
 
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the rag joints original purpose was to break away in case of a head on accident . The older Fords pre 67 had the steering shaft one solid piece out of the steering box , this would impale the driver in a head on accident .

so I would stick with the original design . you can buy the rag joint kit at most auto parts stores in the Help section .
 
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I'm not sure how the rag joint would allow the steering shaft to break free in a head on collision? The column flange sits almost on top of the steering box and has pins that keep it aligned. I thought the purpose of the rag joint was to insulate the steering wheel from road vibrations and such.
 
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It is definitely a primitive steering damper. Not sure about colapsable shafts in the that old of truck.
 
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Originally Posted by MIKES 68 F100
the rag joints original purpose was to break away in case of a head on accident.

The older Fords pre 65 had the steering shaft one solid piece out of the steering box, this would impale the driver in a head on accident.
Steering coupler (rag joint) introduced in 1965 F100/250 2WD, it's the same for 1966 F100/250 2WD before serial number 900,001 (C5TZ-3A525-A - larger locating pin is .41" O.D.).

1966 F100/250 2WD from serial number 900,001, 1967/68 F100/250 2WD use a different steering coupler (C6TZ-3A525-A - larger locating pin is .56" O.D.).

The steering coupler bolts to the flange of the steering shaft, its splined end slides onto the splines of steering gear box' input shaft, a thru bolt and nut retains it in place.

Considering how the coupler is attached, how can it break away in an accident? The 4WD's did not use a steering coupler (rag joint) until 1976.

1966 F100 4WD, 1967/75 F100/250 4WD: The lower steering shaft connects to the input shaft of the steering gear box w/a clamp and thru bolt.

US Gov't mandated collapsible steering columns for cars beginning in 1968, but no F100/350, Bronco or Econoline has a collapsible steering column until 1980.
 
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i got that info from the guys over at VMF vintage Mustang forum , they refer to the 65-66 mustang solid steering shaft as the impaler
 
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My buddy crashed a 65 mustang and it pushed him to the back seat and bruised his ribs. His passenger received four hundred stitches to his face. **** happens!
 
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Originally Posted by MIKES 68 F100
i got that info from the guys over at VMF vintage Mustang forum , they refer to the 65-66 mustang solid steering shaft as the impaler
The later Mustangs, 71 - 73, have a corrugated column tube and breakaway aluminum mounts under the dash to help it not impale you. All cars had solid columns until the early 70's. Just drive careful!
 
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Originally Posted by MIKES 68 F100
i got that info from the guys over at VMF vintage Mustang forum , they refer to the 65-66 mustang solid steering shaft as the impaler
I can see how it might work. Since the column and therefore the rag joint are at an angle (guessing 75 degrees from the front) and the force from a head on would be horizontal, the force would work against the rag joint. Not push it up.
 


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