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The truth about the MPG of the "Eco" Boost

The results of AAA survey on gas mileage basically says it all:

One-in-Three Americans Doubt Accuracy of Fuel Economy Ratings | AAA NewsRoom

The Ford "Eco" boost owners report on average 9% poorer gas mileage than EPA estimates. Huh....glad I got my Ram!
 
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Face it, it takes energy to move this much mass around and that energy comes from gasoline whether burned in a 3.5L V-6 or (my current) 5.4L V-8. If I can step up to an Ecoboost 3.5, and get far better performance while consuming the same amount of fuel, it'll be fine with me
 
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Originally Posted by 2015er
The results of AAA survey on gas mileage basically says it all:

One-in-Three Americans Doubt Accuracy of Fuel Economy Ratings | AAA NewsRoom

The Ford "Eco" boost owners report on average 9% poorer gas mileage than EPA estimates. Huh....glad I got my Ram!
9% I would say that's pretty dam good, taking into how the person drives, were the vehicle is driven, a truck in MI is going to get lower mpg's than one driven in Az. Someone living in the mountains is going to suffer the same fate than someone living in the plains, What did Dodge get? Oh that's right they are lighter compared to the , Wonder were they saved the weight?
 
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Originally Posted by 2015er
The results of AAA survey on gas mileage basically says it all:

One-in-Three Americans Doubt Accuracy of Fuel Economy Ratings | AAA NewsRoom

The Ford "Eco" boost owners report on average 9% poorer gas mileage than EPA estimates. Huh....glad I got my Ram!
I'm glad you got your "Ram" too.

Post up when the transmission pukes, since they all do.
 
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Originally Posted by Going_Going_Gone
Face it, it takes energy to move this much mass around and that energy comes from gasoline whether burned in a 3.5L V-6 or (my current) 5.4L V-8. If I can step up to an Ecoboost 3.5, and get far better performance while consuming the same amount of fuel, it'll be fine with me
My EcoBoost gets better gas mileage than my 2008 5.4 and the Eco would run circles around my 5.4.
 
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Originally Posted by 2015er
The results of AAA survey on gas mileage basically says it all:

One-in-Three Americans Doubt Accuracy of Fuel Economy Ratings | AAA NewsRoom

The Ford "Eco" boost owners report on average 9% poorer gas mileage than EPA estimates. Huh....glad I got my Ram!

Notice it does detail how the epa estimates are made in a 60 mile loop around a city in texas...where it is flat and they run 60 mph!

All that equals a substantially higher epa estimate than what real world driving will yield...
 
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Now hold on a minute there '15er! Ram?!?!! We need a kick ye out icon...
 
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Now hold on a minute there '15er! Ram?!?!! We need a kick ye out icon...

Just another troll!
 
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Never trust EPA estimates! We've known this since the 1997 body change over. Why trust the organization that forces lower emissions in vehicles and get excellent mpg when for the most part hasn't really gotten any better for the most part. They are always higher than what the real world says. Now when it comes to a diesel, EPA stats are usually on the low end and the vehicles gets better than estimates. Also these are ESTIMATES not REAL WORLD! Its amazing what you can get in the real world if you baby the crap out of a vehicle or beat the hell out of the skinny pedal for worse mileage.
 
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My EcoBoost gets better gas mileage than my 2008 5.4 and the Eco would run circles around my 5.4.

Which was Ford's goal. Too many people thought they were going to get 25 MPG out of an engine designed to be the premium towing engine. It comes standard with 3.15 or 3.31 gears. People say that's too high so they get 3.73's and then gripe because they can't get good mileage.

Ford said it would get 25% better than the 5.4, which it does. It's not living up to peoples unrealistic expectations more than anything else.
 
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My EcoBoost gets better gas mileage than my 2008 5.4 and the Eco would run circles around my 5.4.
Yep, better than my 08 5.4, and better than my '12 5.0 also.
 
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Yep, better than my 08 5.4, and better than my '12 5.0 also.
Even better than my '12 Tacoma 4.0L n/a.
 
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Agree, the 3.5 EB gets better mileage than the 5.4 Triton. The EB has all around better driving and towing characteristics the the 5.4 Triton. I forgot how much better the EB was till I drove a 5.4 F150 the other day.

I've read a lot about EPA estimates. The EPA only tests a small % of the vehicles and even a smaller % are tested outside. Their testing is done in a lab on a dynamometer with a professional driver. Highway testing is done by varying speed, with a maximum speed of 80 and average speed of 48 over a 8 mile stretch.

Put your cruise control on 65 you'll beat the EPA numbers, drive 70 you'll be right at them +/- a little.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
 
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I have always gotten right at or better (hand calculated over several tanks) than what the EPA states, however when my wife drives, she usually averages 1-2 mpg less than I do because she is always in a hurry and she refuses to coast to a stoplight, even if there is a line of cars that will slow her down regardless. Some people forget that it's not just how hard you push on the throttle, it's how often you use your brakes. With a truck, anything you can do to conserve momentum will pay off at the pump.
 
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It's commonly acknowledged that the EPA stickers are generated from data that is less than perfect.

However, the current EPA estimate is a lot closer to reality than the old estimate. The EPA estimate will probably get better as time goes on, but in the mean time, everyone knows that it over-estimates pretty much everyone's mileage by "about" the same amount.

I can live with that. It ain't perfect, it's better than it used to be, and I know how to compensate.

BTW - When we picked up our 2015, it had 15 miles on it, and the mileage displayed on the console was something like "2 MPG". eeesh. I decided to run with it, and by the time I finished off the first tank, it was up to an average of 17.1 MPG.

I reset it at that point, and now have ~~ 100 miles on the second tank of gas. It's now at 19.9 MPG, even with about half the miles going up the mountain. It ain't bad folks.
 


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