6.0 power stroke on 77 f-100 clouding my though!
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6.0 power stroke on 77 f-100 clouding my though!
So a friend of mine has a 2005 f250 that unfortunately his wife got on a crash and roll over, the engine and transmission are in perfectly good shape, I was talking to him about my 302 fuel injection built and how I was getting ready to put it in my truck, then this guy threw a bomb on me, he tells me how would I be interested on doing a trade, my 302 with transmission and all wiring and computer for his power stroke engine transmission wiring harness and basically everything I need, I'm really excited and contemplating to do this trade but I'm not sure if I should do it, any thoughts on this guys? The power stroke has 98,000 miles on it, I'm super thrill.
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That's because the 6.0 is a giant suckfest. I had an 05 that was such a POS Ford bought it back. Only hardcore fanboys or people in denial love them.
When I was in college the tech guy's had one donated from a van that the company reverted to a 7.3, and they wouldn't even use it, and it was free lol.
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Sounds to me like you are thinking of trading a much easier EFI swap for a much bigger pain in the a$$ swap that will have you hating life. Think about the huge weight difference which means making the frame stronger, a totally different suspension, transmission cross member fabrication, tranny tunnel on the cab fabrications, a new rearend (a stock 9" will get destroyed from the torque of a diesel), all of the vacuum controls (brakes and dash controls), going from 12V to 24V. The list will be astonishing. Keep it gas, drive it and enjoy it much much sooner. Screw that 6.0L. It ain't worth it.
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7.3 Diesel idi in my 79 F250 4x4. Slikwillie is right on almost all points. I wouldnt do it in a 2wd just cause what would you use it for? But it is your truck. Mine is just now driving around. I'm working on the small stuff now. Making sure it is reliable. What he said about the cross member is correct. I'm not sure how you could deal with the weight difference in a f100. I wanted to do it in a 77 f150 4x4 and was talked out of it. We went with the 79 f250 4x4. Transmission cross member , engine mounts, huge custom work to engine cross member beefing it up, but cutting lots out of it, most have to use a body lift to clear brake booster and ac box etc...hydroboost brakes is a better way to go.
Lots and lots of fab work. But I love mine. Just a year and a half after we started. I had to have the trans rebuilt big $ , all new brake lines, brakes, all new ball joints, new fuel lines, and every part was changed out for new etc....
I'm almost to phase 3, body and paint. Phase 2 is getting it reliable. That is going well with all the new parts. Everything under it is new just about.
7.3 Diesel idi in my 79 F250 4x4. Slikwillie is right on almost all points. I wouldnt do it in a 2wd just cause what would you use it for? But it is your truck. Mine is just now driving around. I'm working on the small stuff now. Making sure it is reliable. What he said about the cross member is correct. I'm not sure how you could deal with the weight difference in a f100. I wanted to do it in a 77 f150 4x4 and was talked out of it. We went with the 79 f250 4x4. Transmission cross member , engine mounts, huge custom work to engine cross member beefing it up, but cutting lots out of it, most have to use a body lift to clear brake booster and ac box etc...hydroboost brakes is a better way to go.
Lots and lots of fab work. But I love mine. Just a year and a half after we started. I had to have the trans rebuilt big $ , all new brake lines, brakes, all new ball joints, new fuel lines, and every part was changed out for new etc....
I'm almost to phase 3, body and paint. Phase 2 is getting it reliable. That is going well with all the new parts. Everything under it is new just about.
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Don't do it. I'm all about making the truck the way you want it, but that setup is a trap. If you enjoy driving your truck now, starting that swap will make it a long time before you drive it again. There are better diesels, better gas engines, and more suitable drivetrains to swap. Dont forget, say you make the swap, things go as good as they can, $10,000 and 2 years later, you get it done and running. You still wont be able to legally tow more than the ratings for your F100. God forbid there is an accident and they look at your ratings and see you were over loaded.
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I will buck the general consensus here (dangerous being a new guy)...
I have had (2) 6.0s, 7.3s, and even 7.3 and 6.9 IDIs. I happen to really like the 6.0. In my opinion, the 6.0/ 5R110 TS >>> 7.3/4R100. The 7.3 is sluggish, and the 4R100 will never be anything more than a boat anchor in my opinion.
The 6.0 can and will be a great engine for you, if you take the time to do a few things. If you are taking the engine out, the biggest hassle of working on a 6.0 is taken care of. Most of the time, folks have to pull the cab off. Do the head studs and gaskets while the engine is out. Obviously have the heads checked, etc. Do a complete EGR delete (Liberator Diesel makes a nice kit, which I have used twice), and change the oil cooler out for the updated Ford revision. Install a coolant filter, and you will have a great pacage. The 6.0 is snappy, and the 5R110 is crisp shifting transmission. Night and day from the 7.3/ 4R100. If you plan on tuning it, keep it mild; the 6.0 is already 100 hp ahead of the 7.3.
As far as doing the swap... it is going to be a major undertaking. 10X the effort of an EFI 302 swap. Interfacing the gauges, electronics, etc is not impossible, but it will also not be a weekend swap. I think you have the real estate in the dent side. Motor mounts, trans mounting, and all would obviously be up to you. You'll need a rear axle swap as well. I have seen (in person), and '86 with a 6.0 swap, and it was very well done.
It would be very toilsome, but don't let people's opinions of the 6.0 be what keeps you from doing it. I've had 2 deleted wicked up 6.0s, and they are great engines if you make some changes. My first had 240K on it when I sold it (deletes done at 120K, and no issues from then on). My second has 90K on it now, and I deleted it at 65K. No issues.
If nothing else, make the swap (EFI 302 for 6.0), and then unload the engine and transmission. A good running 6.0, and TS auto will fetch good money, and you could use that to build something else.
I have had (2) 6.0s, 7.3s, and even 7.3 and 6.9 IDIs. I happen to really like the 6.0. In my opinion, the 6.0/ 5R110 TS >>> 7.3/4R100. The 7.3 is sluggish, and the 4R100 will never be anything more than a boat anchor in my opinion.
The 6.0 can and will be a great engine for you, if you take the time to do a few things. If you are taking the engine out, the biggest hassle of working on a 6.0 is taken care of. Most of the time, folks have to pull the cab off. Do the head studs and gaskets while the engine is out. Obviously have the heads checked, etc. Do a complete EGR delete (Liberator Diesel makes a nice kit, which I have used twice), and change the oil cooler out for the updated Ford revision. Install a coolant filter, and you will have a great pacage. The 6.0 is snappy, and the 5R110 is crisp shifting transmission. Night and day from the 7.3/ 4R100. If you plan on tuning it, keep it mild; the 6.0 is already 100 hp ahead of the 7.3.
As far as doing the swap... it is going to be a major undertaking. 10X the effort of an EFI 302 swap. Interfacing the gauges, electronics, etc is not impossible, but it will also not be a weekend swap. I think you have the real estate in the dent side. Motor mounts, trans mounting, and all would obviously be up to you. You'll need a rear axle swap as well. I have seen (in person), and '86 with a 6.0 swap, and it was very well done.
It would be very toilsome, but don't let people's opinions of the 6.0 be what keeps you from doing it. I've had 2 deleted wicked up 6.0s, and they are great engines if you make some changes. My first had 240K on it when I sold it (deletes done at 120K, and no issues from then on). My second has 90K on it now, and I deleted it at 65K. No issues.
If nothing else, make the swap (EFI 302 for 6.0), and then unload the engine and transmission. A good running 6.0, and TS auto will fetch good money, and you could use that to build something else.
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The 6.0 can and will be a great engine for you, if you take the time to do a few things. If you are taking the engine out, the biggest hassle of working on a 6.0 is taken care of. Most of the time, folks have to pull the cab off. Do the head studs and gaskets while the engine is out. Obviously have the heads checked, etc. Do a complete EGR delete (Liberator Diesel makes a nice kit, which I have used twice), and change the oil cooler out for the updated Ford revision. Install a coolant filter, and you will have a great pacage. The 6.0 is snappy, and the 5R110 is crisp shifting transmission. Night and day from the 7.3/ 4R100. If you plan on tuning it, keep it mild; the 6.0 is already 100 hp ahead of the 7.3.