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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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Ford Frame Flex video

This may be old news but I just came across it on another (Jayco RV) forum. I don't know what to think. 3.5 min long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f3C...ature=youtu.be

I now have a better understanding of how some 6.4L trucks are busting their radiators - attributed to flex. Any soothing comments?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 10:06 PM
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looks like the front and rear glass should be popping out too
 
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 04:39 AM
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Would be interesting to see the test with full rated payload in the the beds. Things that don't flex tend to crack. There's more to this story than meets the eye at a casual glance. Remember the mighty oak vs the sapling.
All the tractor-trailers I've driven over the years have very flexible frames.
Google Dodge Frame Crack.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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What they don't tell you is they pull the Ram far enough forward they are on three points of contact. On the Ford they are teetering it between the LR and RF. Watch around the 3 minute mark and you can see how easily they pull down the Ford but the Ram hardly moves. I am not saying the Ford frame does not flex but they either intentionally or via their unscientific approach positioned the trucks differently.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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I always thought they were engineered to flex. When you don't flex, you bend.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rutherk1
I always thought they were engineered to flex. When you don't flex, you bend.

Or break.

I'll take a flexy frame.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 08:17 AM
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"The Boxed frame design was intended for ride comfort and the f150 is the truck for that.The Superduty is our work truck, a Boxed frame, though strong and rigid, has a higher chance to crack around the welds if loaded with too much weight. An open C channel frame is more able to bare the weigh because the less rigidness of a C channel frame can absorb the distortion."


I like the c-channel frame because you can load it up with fluid film and never have to worry about it rusting! If that frame flex was anything to worry about There would be a lot of reports of irreparable frame damage on Ford's c-channel trucks. Go look on youtube and watch some of the 4 wheelin videos with super duties. They flex a lot but they don't break! The truth is there are more problem with Dodge frames cracking than Fords frames bending! Google Dodge Frame Crack and see what a stiff boxed frame can do.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 08:27 AM
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Right when the video starts, you can see that there is a sign next to the trucks that says, "Dodge demo area" so it's obviously Dodge trying convince ignorant people that a stiff, rigid frame is better when the smart money knows that a flexible frame is able to absorb more force before it fails.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 02:12 AM
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DODGE- Damaged Outside Da Garage Entry...
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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DODGE- Damaged Outside Da Garage Entry...
Dodge: Because replacing transmissions and ball joints every 30,000 miles is fun!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 07:33 PM
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Dodge: Because replacing transmissions and ball joints every 30,000 miles is fun!
Well consider both dodge and ford use the same Dana60 front axle...Frds don't make it far with ball joints either. And the older 4R100 and previous trans from Ford are not that great either.... Just saying cuz I havea 04 F350 and ball joints went at around 50k and I'm having issues with my 4R100 also

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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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Not trying to start anything and I know it's off topic . But 03 up dodge trucks switched to the AAM front axle. Not saying it's better or worse then the Dana but overall these trucks are heavy and will always chew up ball joints. Hence why most all heavy trucks use kingpin axles .
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:38 AM
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I bought a '14 Ram and kept it 14 months before I couldn't take the quality issues anymore and traded it for my '15 Super Duty. I thought the Hemi was a great engine and the truck looked cool, but the rest of the truck just wasn't there yet.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:46 AM
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It's all marketing fluff, designed to make truck "R" look better than truck "F", truck "G" or truck "C". Entertaining, but hardly relevant. I'm not just slamming Ram, all of the truck manufacturers do it.

f you want to know the truth, go to forums like this and read what problems owners are having with a certain year, a particular brand, or a specific engine/transmission combination.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 06:25 AM
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In 14 months of ownership I had a fender changed due to paint bubbling up, steering shaft replaced due to failure, water leaks from third brake light, weatherstripping failures causing odd wind noises (changed twice), loud engine valve tick (Hemi tick) that was considered normal, clear coat that would scratch just from looking at it, plastic front bumper that would literally shatter on any contact when it was cold out (changed twice), severe rear end squat from rear coil suspension under any real weight at all ( was told to add air bags).
Other than that, the truck was fun to drive. It was fast. Like driving a '70's muscle car. I decided I needed a truck though.
 
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