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[QUOTE=tx2sturgis;15207301]I've looked at some of the aftermarket side windows made for my van...I've never installed one, but the videos make it look manageable, and after cutting the 14" square opening in the roof last year for the Fantastic vent, I think it should be easier working at ground level.
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im really interested in your 14" roof. You made pictures of this job?
where you bought this window? in a set with seals an so on?
The slang term, "broken-nose Ford van," derived from the angle change in the hood, is apparently not so widespread among vanners as I thought. When I first heard it, maybe twenty years ago, I though it was a handy bit of shorthand for somebody like me who never can remember the first or last years of that, what was it, '75-'91 body style. I had a '66 long-body Econoline for years, but never heard them referred to as "bull-nose," until fairly recently. Actually, Williams' idea, also new to me, of "1st/2nd/3rd/4th-Gen" makes more sense.
...Actually, Williams' idea, also new to me, of "1st/2nd/3rd/4th-Gen" makes more sense.
Yeah Generations is a pretty universal terminology for chronology of most all vehicles amongst forum members.
Ford Vans are as follows:
1st Gen, Model Years: 1961-67, AKA: Flat-front, Bullnose, Teardrop
2nd: 68-74 (Snub-nose is the only nick-name I've heard more than once)
3rd: 75-91 (Broken-nose, dent side)
4th: 92-07
5th: 08-14
Actually, Williams' idea, also new to me, of "1st/2nd/3rd/4th-Gen" makes more sense.
Not true at all, not even in a dream.
This "generation" talk requires fore knowledge not everyone is aware or even cares exists. Citing the year is far more descriptive to anyone reading a thread, no guessing game needed to quickly understand what we're working on or talking about.
Oh, my. "Even in a dream"?? We're talking about a body style here, sheetmetal stampings from identical sets of dies that are used to stamp out identical parts for many years. Sheetmetal, and the parts that conform to it, such as window frames, from a car built during any one of these years can be expected to replace sheetmetal on a car built during any of the years of that body style. I don't have to specify a left front fender for a 1979 E-150. I can ask for a '75-'91 fender (or a Gen 3 fender, or a fender "for a broken-nose van," if one is talking to enthusiasts). It's done every day. Surely even by you. There has never been a trade or a profession or a hobby without its own jargon, learned by its members. And human communication, always and everywhere and even with "foreknowledge," is less than perfect, but we manage somehow.
Oh good lord---jibber jabbering about other jibber jabber.
Look dude you can wax on and on and on and on repeating your view but regardless what justification or reasons you offer nothing will ever beat simply giving the production year of a vehicle.
Jargon is all well and good if only to show off for others but because this site tends to attract neophytes they and nearly everyone else are better served to not engage in it, at least as it relates to where this drifting-off-topic thread is being dragged.
Year, make and model---the well know and long time standard of mechanics the world over. Try walking into any parts or service outlet with this BS about E-Series "generations" and see what it gets in reply: "year, make and model please..."
While It's not my job to moderate this forum please don't continue replying about this nonsense---address the original topic specifically or not at all. We've both contributed to the drifting so perhaps we both simply stop discussing crap not part of the OP ?
im really interested in your 14" roof. You made pictures of this job?
where you bought this window? in a set with seals an so on?
I cut a 14" square hole in the sheet metal of the van's roof and installed a Fan-tastic vent, not a window. Its the same size hole that RVs have in the roof for vents and AC units.
Oh good lord---jibber jabbering about other jibber jabber...
What means this? I have no foreknowledge of "jibber" or "jabbering" or "jibber jabber"
Originally Posted by JWA
...Look dude you can wax on and on and on and on repeating your view but regardless what justification or reasons you offer nothing will ever beat simply giving the production year of a vehicle...
What's a 86 Jeep Wrangler look like? What's a 96 Wrangler look like? Oh there are no such model years...well I guess I could say CJ or YJ or TJ and every single Jeep enthusiasts ever would know what I was talking about. How bout a Ford you say? Ok my 78 half-ton truck needs a headlight, is it round or square?
Originally Posted by JWA
...this site tends to attract neophytes...
Said one moth to another, as they circled the same flame.