A lot of people talk about swaps and never do them so I figured I would get some material together before I made a post.

$450! Dude thought it spun a bearing but, after finding a GIANT crack in the exhaust manifold, I think I found the source of his "knocking" problem.


7.3s first run in months.. Last run in the F250. (Click for video)


In the shop! Caliper stuck on the way to my shop, causing the brakes to boil.. Needless to say, I was slightly frightened when I went to press the pedal.


Front clip removed. I'll need some new hardware.


Rad pics Dude!


Clearance pictures. I'll need electric fans, firewall cut, body lift, and maybe hood modifications.



Hugs goodbye.


Size comparison


Engine harness pulled for future reference..


Dirty pics



Transfer case


Exhaust



Some *** welded the shifter to the tranny.....


...So I had to pull it. Looks clean in there though!


Goodbye IDI. I'll miss you.





Dirty



Clean!



Test fitting the 466 (Click for time-lapse) Looks like it will fit with the above mentioned mods. No surprises!






Seat Pulled


Mocking up 3" Lift with 2x4s


Got rid of some BS wiring. It felt good.


A peek behind the dash shows no major issues for the firewall cut. I might loose my floor heat/ac function but that's not a huge deal. You can see the duct at the bottom. Maybe I can run a flex hose instead.

 

Looks like a good start

 

Nice maybe it'll get better than 4 mpgs like my rig at work

 

Ha! Yeah, I totally understand that it's not practical at all. My goal is to build it, put as much air and fuel to it as I can and run it till it blows up. No reason, just because I can.

Driving is only a small portion of the fun. Building it is where it's at.

Edit: Also, this is not a "Pretty truck" build. The majority of parts are, or will be, from the junkyard (can we call it a treasure yard from now on?).

I still need a 5 speed tranny from a dump truck or school bus, a divorced transfer case (NP205?) and all the hydroboost components from an f450. I want to keep this truck all in the Ford/International family. I'm not about to build a ******* Cummins.

 

throw fuel and air til what blows up?


F it, I agree....will be a fun truck to build and a wild ride turned up.


it will, however, destroy the truck....the weight alone is going to ruin your front end, and a turned up 466 is going to twist the hell out of your frame. there are remedies to both, just things to consider!

 

Good point. I considered switching over to an F350 front end to support the extra weight.. but I think I'll just put a helper spring on there for now and if I have troubles down the road, no pun intended, I'll do the front end swap. That would be a Dana 60, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As for the frame flexing, honestly I didn't even consider that. I figured my weak link would be the transmission and maybe the drive shafts. What should I do about the frame? Fabricate a couple crossmembers?

 

Diesel_brad in his ccsb dually build cut the vertical side of another from out and played it so it would be double walled.. You could do sometjing like that and then add some more cross members

 

the area up under the engine (engine cradle) is pretty stout as is...its the aft part of the frame (trans back) that needs attention.




if im not mistaken, the 466 has engine mounts front and back of the engine, not the center. you'd know better than me, you have one floating around (literally) your shop...but if that is correct, you'll be doing extra crossmembers up front anyway, that'll stiffen it up some. as for the frame, I'd box it with either some more C channel (thatll slide right over the existing C) and welded solid, or just plate it ("box" the frame) with some 3/16 steel. I'd at least go back past the cab, but the entirety would be better but unnecessary.

 

Thanks for the tip. Yes, you're right about the front and rear mounts. There are two mounts at the very front of the engine and two on the bellhousing. BUT, I don't think all trucks use that setup because there are holes tapped directly in line with the cg of the engine on both sides for what appear to be mounts..? Eh, maybe not.. See picture below.

Also, I pulled the dash today and think I'll have to run flextube for my heating and air after I cut the firewall. I'll lose the ability to select floor, panel, defrost, etc. but at least I'll still have AC. It will just be an all on or all off kinda deal. It's not the ducting that is the problem, but the actuators that route the air. One is right in my way... I might be able to make it work, but if not, bye bye functionality!

Here is a link to Diesel_Brads amazing build for anyone interested. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...csb-build.html

Now that I look at it, I think that is just a mount for the air compressor (if equipped).


Pain in the dash


Backward 'C' is the duct. Silver thingy-ma-bobbers are the actuators. The left one is in my way.

 

Had some clearance issues with the wiper motor when I test fitted the engine. Turns out all I had to do was rotate the motor 180 degrees and rotate the arm 180 degrees as well. One bolt hole won't line up obviously but I think its plenty stout with only 2 out of three holding it on. The two that hold it are both in line with the center of rotation so I don't expect any weird torque issues when the wipers are activated. Once rotated, the motor slightly interferes with the firewall. A couple of love taps with the ball peen fixed that.

Tomorrow we cut. Not gonna lie, I'm kind of nervous.

Stock


Arm before rotation.


This should work.


Done!

 

a guy a couple hours away from me put a dt360 into his 08 f450, heres his build: A slightly different DT360 Swap 2008 F450 - PowerStrokeNation : Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

 

Are you going to go with an OD trans?

 

Dude, that build is awesome! I've seen it before but I don't think he was quite done when I last checked. Thanks for bringing it up.

Brad, I want overdrive but I'm still kinda on the fence about what exact transmission I'm going to use. I'd prefer...

..standard transmission with SAE 2 bellhousing so I don't have to mess with any adapters.

..as few gears as possible but with reasonable strength. (I say that but I'll run a 6+ if it's all I can find for a reasonable price.)

Also, it needs to be a Ford friendly company. Like I said before, I'm not trying to birth a ******* (starts with B and ends in turd). Basically I'm going to go to the treasure yard and hope something finds me.

If anyone has any suggestions on what to keep an eye out for, I'm all ears.. and eyes I guess.

Started cutting today but I had a lot going on so I didn't quite finish. Stay tuned!

 

Your affordable 4x4 trans options are going to be very limited without an adapter. Divorced case solves that, but I'm not a big fan of divorcing.

You might be able to find an adapter to a ford diesel trans, zf6 would be best bang for buck and they're strong basturds. They're big though, like trans tunnel mod big.

Not sure how long a zf5 would live under the torque of a turned up 466, but you have one and replacements are cheap.

Other than that, a 6 spd out of a tow truck, or any other med duty you can find, equipped with the big dt's would only require divorced case.

 

did anything ever come of this swap