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Old 01-27-2015, 04:38 AM
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226 draft tubes, G vs H series

A member here, 3twinridges, sent me a PM asking if I have an extra draft tube from a spare engine I bought from another member, raystasch. When I checked the cartons of parts I did not discover what I recognized as a draft tube (although I did see something similar). I have attached a picture of the draft tube that's used on the engine I'm building, but it is believed to be from a G series. My engine is an H series but someone could have attached a G series valve cover in years back.
For those with the 226 engine, does the attached image look like a G or H series draft tube?


 
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I have two original 'H' engines (late '49 and a late 51) and neither draft tube looked like that. My tubes were separate from the cover and screwed onto it with one bolt. The tube itself is one piece.

Can't say what a G is supposed to look like, haven't seen one of those engines up close.

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Old 01-27-2015, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pineconeford
I have two original 'H' engines (late '49 and a late 51) and neither draft tube looked like that. My tubes were separate from the cover and screwed onto it with one bolt. The tube itself is one piece.

Can't say what a G is supposed to look like, haven't seen one of those engines up close.

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The road draft on the parts engine you got, Howard, was as Tom describes. Separate and held into the valve cover with a single long bolt. BTW, I made a search this morning and did not find it.
 
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I don't have a lot of experience with the flat 6 engines, but I have reason to believe Ford made a lot of running changes, whether it was for application or engineering, to the draft tubes. I've got (had) a 51 and a 52 254 6's and they both have a different draft tube, and both were original.



 
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:44 AM
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Holy smokes you can plant POTATOES on that engine Wayne!!!





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No good pictures of my H at the top, but here's how it is run down the side, before and after I put a clamp on it to secure it.





 
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Thank you, I have the tube, but I am coming up empty on the mid point clamp and oil pan bracket for the tube. The pieces I am looking for are parts 8556 and 6788 from the van pelt diagram. Thanks! Sorry to keep beating a dead horse on the draft tube, but I think it is important to get the oil condensation out of the valve chamber and avoid sludge and buildup.
 
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...... but I think it is important to get the oil condensation out of the valve chamber and avoid sludge and buildup.

Is that what it does? I thought it was a kickstand for holding the engine upright when someone puts one on the ground.

I'll keep an eye out for one for you, I frequently look for 226 parts - like the elusive water pump rebuild kit and phenolic layered carb spacer, etc.


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Old 01-27-2015, 01:54 PM
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Aren't all 226 parts elusive? I would equate finding the mid point clamp and the oil pan bracket equivalent to seeing a real live Yeti. I have found most all other parts! It's kinda good to experience that though, it keeps me from buying something even older than a 50 F1. Could you imagine finding parts for a 32 or a 37 year model, what a nightmare!

I have found a clamp and bracket for the 8 clylinder, I think I can make it work, but if someone has the 226 draft tube parts lying around collecting dust, I have a home from them!

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Originally Posted by 3twinridges
Thank you, I have the tube, but I am coming up empty on the mid point clamp and oil pan bracket for the tube. The pieces I am looking for are parts 8556 and 6788 from the van pelt diagram. Thanks! Sorry to keep beating a dead horse on the draft tube, but I think it is important to get the oil condensation out of the valve chamber and avoid sludge and buildup.
I couldn't find the tube clamp parts either, so I improvised. This is a u-shaped bracket I bent a tab on and a pipe clamp. Works just fine. The tab has a hole where the bolt from the oil pan holds it on.


 
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As always, this site is always a flurry of knowledge. I have learned that I didn't even have the correct draft tube on my old engine, and that I've wasted time prepping it for paint and assembly to the (someday in the near future) new engine. I also realized that I can be less than observant too- because I disassembled the engine I got from Ray and it never became obvious when I removed the valve covers that one was a little different from the one I removed from my original engine.
 
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:37 PM
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Howard, you may have the correct one! I dont think anyone knows for sure as there appears to be many types. The only reason why I think yours is from a G series is because I pulled that same assembly from a 47 G series. But that could have not been original either or carried into the H series. The important thing is that you have the piece with the oil pan bracket to stabilize it!

Jolly Roger, your heat riser looks good! I have mine working well now too. I cant say that I notice any difference in warm up time, but it is easier to start now after a long run, long run defined as like 30 minutes. There is a good thread on here about the correct position of the accelerator return spring and the mysterious hole in the floorpan. I have a couple of spare pins for that hole if anyone is looking for an original. I ordered 1 from green sales and they sent 10 I think. Its really just a simple short cotter pin, maybe a little flatter than normal.

Thanks Jonathan
 
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Holy smokes you can plant POTATOES on that engine Wayne!!!



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The 51 in the top picture I'm pretty sure parked itself in the field while running, when 2 cylinders seized and the block broke inside from overheating. It wasn't pretty. The 52 may have ran when parked, but it appeared to have been parked in the 60's, so there's no real telling the story on that one. The truck was used up pretty hard everywhere else. The ridges in the brake drums were about 4 feet deep.
 
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