1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

turbo help, new injectors

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-21-2015, 12:07 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
turbo help, new injectors

Hey guys heres my question......im waiting on my tax return, when i get it im rebuilding (upgrading) my 4r100. Right now i have 175cc/stock injectors but going to put 100% nozzles on them and need a turbo to match them good, i know a 38r would work great but i dont think im going to jave the funds left over to get one, i was wondering if i could build my stock turbo to move enough air to work with the injectors? Right niw i have a rebuilt gtp38 with no ebpv, stock wheel, and a ATS ported housing. Was thinking of a 1.00 or 1.15 exhaust housing with the van adapter and a wicked wheel with the ported housing. Do any of you think a set up like that would move enough air for them injectors? Im not to worried about turbo lag because i have 4:10 gears so it lights up extremely fast now with the .84 exhaust housing on it. I really wish i could just find a used 38r and be done but their seems to be none around haha thanks a lot for anyones input, its greatly appreciated
 
  #2  
Old 01-21-2015, 08:05 PM
brushfit's Avatar
brushfit
brushfit is offline
Mountain Pass

Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 180
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From all the research I have done on here…There are a lot of guys using your Turbo setup with the exception of a wheel upgrade and 1.0 housing…I think you can move the air…maybe an exhaust upgrade and the 6637 air filter…I upgraded to the AFE big boost filter…I did a before and after up a mountain pass against the 6637..big difference with the AFE filter….Check out Riffraff diesel's website, they are an FTE sponsor They currently have a sale on the 38r as well,,they are my place for power stroke parts
 
  #3  
Old 01-21-2015, 08:05 PM
Bonanza35's Avatar
Bonanza35
Bonanza35 is offline
Lead Driver

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Norco,CA
Posts: 9,331
Received 140 Likes on 100 Posts
175 stock injectors? They don't come with 175 injectors. If you have the ats ported housing I'd go with Clay's upgraded wheel for that housing. Higher boost and better spool up. If you have the 175 single shoots and are going to have them put 100 over tips on them you may need new tuning as well. I'd go with the 1.0 exhaust housing if your going to change that, the 1.15 mitt be a little much. Some guys really like them but again you have to be tuned for that.
 
  #4  
Old 01-21-2015, 08:12 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I already have a reg return, intake,4" turbo back, hutch mod,and some more im forgetting. As for my injectors they are 175cc stock nozzle single shot injectors with tw tunes. Im going to have 175cc 100% nozzles with new tunes. What im wondering is what can i do to my turbo for it to keep up with the new 100% nozzles.
 
  #5  
Old 01-21-2015, 08:39 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Well, you can make anything work for the time being. Joe (Izzy351) has been running his Van Turbo & ATS housing with 238cc Hybrids and a 6637 air filter for 5 years or more. He's dynoe'd at 450 HP.

But we need to know what all your mods are before recommending anything.
 
  #6  
Old 01-21-2015, 08:45 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
and what the elevation is in your area of the country (NY - upstate or coastal?)...................
 
  #7  
Old 01-21-2015, 09:11 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I live in Upstate NY
 
  #8  
Old 01-21-2015, 09:34 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
What is the elevation there?
 
  #9  
Old 01-21-2015, 09:36 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have no idea, normal maybe haha if their is a normal
 
  #10  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:17 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
go to this website & plug in your location, once the page updates the elevation will be right under the location name:

Weather Forecast & Reports - Long Range & Local | Wunderground | Weather Underground

This is the part about the 1.0 and the 1.15 Bonanza35 was getting at. At higher elevations the 1.15 A/R housing is really laggy
 
  #11  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:21 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My elevation is 653ft
 
  #12  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:25 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Next would be to find out what the potential HP is from the 175/100 injectors. Ask the person you are getting them from and the tuner who's writing the programs for them. After that you can look at some compressor maps and see were you stand with turbo choices.

BUT, make sure you do your homework on the 100% nozzles. They can be tricky to get the tuning right. Many need live tuning, so that must be brought to the table as an option if your dead set on getting them. Tugly, Curtis & Cleatus here on FTE can give you loads of info on these nozzles & combinations. 80% are much easier to tune for.

Plus, if you have a TS style chip you will be sending that thing back & forth in the mail till you get the tunes right. If you have a Hydra style chip you can at least get your tunes via e-mail and load them yourself.

Edit: I'm guessing 400-425 HP
 
  #13  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:26 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by jr2000sd
My elevation is 653ft
nothing to worry about there
 
  #14  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:30 PM
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
white Buffalo is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Can you list what mods you have done?
 
  #15  
Old 01-21-2015, 10:38 PM
jr2000sd's Avatar
jr2000sd
jr2000sd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hpx,frx,boost fooler,intake,ebpv delete,4" turbo back,hutch mod,ats housing,aih delete,valve body,traction bars,bellowed up pipes,tw tunes,175/stock single shot injectors,4:10 gears.....i think thats it lol
 


Quick Reply: turbo help, new injectors



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:35 PM.