What could cause Diesel fuel hydrolock and destroy rod bearings In just 440 miles?
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What could cause Diesel fuel hydrolock and destroy rod bearings In just 440 miles?
I purchased a 2006 F250 a few months back and it had a couple codes for bad injectors. Even though the truck only had 99,000 miles on it I sent it in December and had the truck bulletproofed. The Diesel tech that did it has been a for tech for 10 years and has done hundreds of head gaskets and studs. We then ordered a set of 8 remanufactured injectors from a source that has rave reviews on many forums.
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
Last edited by piperpilotduane; 01-14-2015 at 08:52 PM. Reason: Add
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It's hard to say, since this is a used truck. You don't know what was done in the past.
I am far from being a diesel expert, but there is only one way for fuel to get into the combustion chamber, and that is through the injectors. If there is too much fuel, it came from the injectors.
When you say the truck was "bulletproofed", what exactly was done?
I am far from being a diesel expert, but there is only one way for fuel to get into the combustion chamber, and that is through the injectors. If there is too much fuel, it came from the injectors.
When you say the truck was "bulletproofed", what exactly was done?
#3
Wow, you've had some really lousy luck with this truck.
It seems odd to me that you had injector codes before you had the engine torn down the first time, and injector problems are likely to have killed your engine. What were the trouble codes before it went into the shop?
I'm going to move this one down to the 6.0L forum, the folks down there will be better able to help you with this.
It seems odd to me that you had injector codes before you had the engine torn down the first time, and injector problems are likely to have killed your engine. What were the trouble codes before it went into the shop?
I'm going to move this one down to the 6.0L forum, the folks down there will be better able to help you with this.
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I purchased a 2006 F250 a few months back and it had a couple codes for bad injectors. Even though the truck only had 99,000 miles on it I sent it in December and had the truck bulletproofed. The Diesel tech that did it has been a for tech for 10 years and has done hundreds of head gaskets and studs. We then ordered a set of 8 remanufactured injectors from a source that has rave reviews on many forums.
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
Using synthetic oil and a good injector cleaner after you fix your current problem will prevent stiction.
Ed
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I purchased a 2006 F250 a few months back and it had a couple codes for bad injectors. Even though the truck only had 99,000 miles on it I sent it in December and had the truck bulletproofed. The Diesel tech that did it has been a for tech for 10 years and has done hundreds of head gaskets and studs. We then ordered a set of 8 remanufactured injectors from a source that has rave reviews on many forums.
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
I have changed oil in this truck Twice since I bought it and never a trace of bearing material in the filter or oil.
After installing everything, the mechanic at my request, drove it a couple hundred miles checking things out. He installed an sct live wire for me so I could watch temps. The second day I noticed that the oil temp was 20 * hotter than the coolant temp. Each time I drove it the differential grew. (Actually clogging the oil cooler with metal). At 440 miles #6 piston made a tapping noise and it shut down hydro locking with fuel. I had the heads pulled and #3 piston was 1/2 full of diesel, #5 was full of Diesel and #6 was full of Diesel. All injectors still had the O-rings and Copper washers intact and clean. # 1 was a little dirty between the washer and the 1st oring. What could cause this besides faulty injectors?
We tore down the block after only 440 miles and found the filter and pan full of bronze bearing material. Hardly any wear on 1,2,4,7 and 8 rod bearings. Mild wear on #3, a lot on #5 and # 6 completely gone. The piston coating was completely washed of any coating and a print in the metal where it hit the head a dozen times or so on #6. Like the rod bearings, # 1,2,4,7,8 had hardly any wear on the coating.
What are we missing, the re-manufacturer says the injectors are fine, but I have a destroyed engine that is junk. I have pictures of all the damage on flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128691588@N05/
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