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Air bags and towing a nose-high fiver

When I'm all hooked up, my fifth wheel is a little nose high... couple inches. The F350 squats a little also. I've contemplated air bags to fix the squat, but I don't want to raise the nose of the fiver any more.

What would you guys do? Air bag it? Leave it?

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Leave it. No bags needed.
 
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I put airbags on mine right before I sold my TT and bought my 5th wheel toyhauler. Without the bags the 5th wheel caused about 2 1/2 inches of squat (3800lb pin weight), but the bags keep that in check, improve steering feel, potential braking force, and view out the front. My 5th sits a little high in the front, even with the hitch set to it's lowest position, but I feel the pros outweigh the cons. I guess it depends on how severe your nose high condition is, but I would say 'bag it.
 
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Air bags for sure then lower the hitch or goose neck a bit
 
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I wouldn't fool with it either unless it's severe and causing problems, a couple of inches isn't a problem.

But, isn't your 5th wheel height adjustable?
 
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I wouldn't fool with it either unless it's severe and causing problems, a couple of inches isn't a problem.

But, isn't your 5th wheel height adjustable
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Thats what I said......... PS looks like you need air bags too
 
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The reason I originally installed air bags was to get rid of a little sag when towing my fifth wheel. I soon realized that they greatly improved the ride when towing. I say get the air bags and adjust your hitch or pin box to level out the fiver, then enjoy the ride.
 
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Thats what I said......... PS looks like you need air bags too
Nope, current truck doesn't need them, has aircells.

New truck comes from the factory with air suspension.
 
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Gerry, he is getting a Fiat.
 
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Gerry, he is getting a Fiat.
Yup, a fiat 500 with a 5th wheel hitch on the roof.
 
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I have the dually you see in the avatar. I bagged my '10 F350 dually, and when I traded, used the same bags on this truck, with just a new upper bracket. I love using bags. They keep the headlights where they are meant to be for night driving, keep the truck level, take the jolt out of interstate bridge expansion joints and improve the right quality when empty. I have a high profile 42 ft 5er as well. It is truly on of the best mods I've ever done to a truck. Period. But, I did go the extra step and put an onboard air system on mine that I can adjust on the fly as road conditions change. I went the Viair 10007 system and Firestone dual gauges and also put in air chuck under the right rear door of the truck so I can fill tires, floats, or whatever from it. I say bag it....
 
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First thing I would do is adjust your fifth wheel hitch, sounds like it needs to be dropped a notch. There should be a series of pre drilled holes on the top part of your hitch, just drop it one hole, maybe two.

I'm of the opinion that transporting a multi axle trailer requires it to be nearly level for proper weight distribution. If the nose is high then the rear axle on the trailer is probably handling more weight than the front. Not necessarily a bad thing but it's not right either. If the camper is heavy and the axles are close to their limit you could be overloading the rear axle.

Once the hitch is right I would also get airbags. I think airbags are the most bang for your buck mod on a truck. You can improve your towing experience dramatically with just two airbags.
 
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Are you using the Ford/Reese Elite in bed hitch?
 
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Thanks everyone. I am using a PullRite SuperGlide, which I believe is the problem. I installed the low profile feet for it, and raised the pin box as high as it will go, but the nose still seems a little high. I will try to post a pic. My Reese 18K had her riding level, but its a shortbed and I dinged the cab so out that went.

I think I'm sold on the air bags... This part should be fun: Any recommendations?

Also... I see there is a lot of debate about on board air... recommended also? If I'ma gonna do it, I wanna do it right.
 
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Thanks everyone. I am using a PullRite SuperGlide, which I believe is the problem. I installed the low profile feet for it, and raised the pin box as high as it will go, but the nose still seems a little high. I will try to post a pic. My Reese 18K had her riding level, but its a shortbed and I dinged the cab so out that went.

I think I'm sold on the air bags... This part should be fun: Any recommendations?

Also... I see there is a lot of debate about on board air... recommended also? If I'ma gonna do it, I wanna do it right.
bags will make a difference

I use the Firestone RideRite 2535 kit, and the Airlift Wireless One controller. (no wires or hoses to the cab).
I also have a Viair Onboard air system 10007 kit.
a few folks have done the same air and bags. (I copied their installs!)

I am about to remove the Airlift mini compressor and connect the bag controller to the OBA system. Then I'll use the mini compressor to control the airbag on my TrailAir pinbox via remote control as well.
 

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