I was seriously considering the possible future ownership of one of these trucks. Yes, I guess it is a little better than before, but I'm not impressed, especially considering they spent a gazillion dollars on an all-aluminum re-design, filled people full of anticipation, developed all those "eco boost" engine options, delayed the release to market, and (of course) raised the overall price of the trucks. This is a direct quote from the first post in this thread from the 2015 F-150 FTE Forum, and the link to the thread with various other reports. I might as well keep driving my 97 F-150 DD gas guzzler and save another payment. Why should I spend thousands and thousands of dollars to get an extra 2 MPG? Heck my diesel truck isn't much worse than that. Of course Ford says higher MPG's while the EPA says lower, but the overall realization is that it's not much to write home about.


"17/23 for 4x4 3.5L naturally aspirated
18/23 for 4x4 2.7L Eco
17/23 for 4x4 3.5L Eco
15/21 for 4x4 5.0L V8"


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...g-numbers.html

 

How can so much weight be removed and result in so modest an MPG change? Something doesn't add up.

 

If you gained a whopping 15% (which sounds huge in ads) over 15mpg, that's about an additional 2mpg. Figures don't lie, but liars sure can figure.

On the other hand, if someone drove 18,000 miles a year the difference between 15mpg and 17mpg at $3/gallon is $423, or $564 at $4/gal. That's one free payment a year. See...

 

I've been watching this closely too, because I own Ford stock

Everything I've read is that while there is an improvement in mileage, the biggest difference is in handling and braking due to less weight. Think how much weight they'd save if the F-150 wasn't still so huge.

 

The MPG they are touting is for the 4x2 2.7 eco is 19/26, which is pretty good. I was hoping they'd hit 30MPG though.

 

[QUOTE=52 Merc;14847246]If Figures don't lie, but liars sure can figure.


So are you saying Detroit lies AND uses figures ? If so I think you are correct.

 

It will be interesting to see how the 10 speed auto they plan to introduce next year will affect the MPG numbers.

 

I'd be more interested in the cost of rebuilding one of those when it dies.

 

Ford also hasn't provided enough training material or support on the collision repairs to the aluminum structure. Not a good thing for consumers because most don't know that aluminum repairs need to be handled separately from steel repairs. So now, every average Joe shop will be repairing the aluminum structure incorrectly. Most manufacturers have rigorous training and certifications when dealing with aluminum repairs. Ford does not!

 

Like anything new I'd wait at least a.model year or two before.buying.one. I have a feeling there going to be a few design problems when a good number of problems when a large number of them get on the road. My other concern is how the.lighter trucks handle upper state's snow storm. Up here we like a nice heavy vehicle to drive through the deep snow.try

 

Hi guys

I just wanted to give you guys some perspective....

I have one of the european markets largest station wagon on the market today. It has a 4 cylinder 170 hp 350 Nm diesel engine, 4wd (computer), and it gives me about 40/57 miles to the gallon.

Its a Skoda superb station wagon 2011

I am not complaining

 

Weight is only a small factor for mpg, in accelerating and very slightly in tire drag and climbing hills as as heavier truck goes downhill more efficiently, weight reduction will only will only very slightly improve mpg. Once your moving at a constant speed it's all about pushing air and engine/driveline efficiency.

 

There is only a certain amount of energy that you can pull out of a gallon of gas and a f150 has it's limits with aerodynamics. Until they find a better energy source there isn't going to be anything mind blowing in mpg. Look at the truck for what for what the the truck is and can do, the old 1 ton is the new 1/2 ton.

 

What happens to it in a hail storm? When we lived in Chicago we could see aa lot of cars with dents all over from it. Is this stronger than the steel of softer? Just asking as I have no idea.

 

I wasn't accusing anyone of lying, actually. Just making a point that anyone can manipulate numbers and figures to have them say anything they want to their benefit. The "figures don't lie..." phrase is just an old saying.