Official EPA MPG numbers
#32
#34
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall and find out first hand whether or not the 2.7L met Ford's expectations or fell short........and now they're stuck with it.
I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.
Now, if the 2.7L 4x2 F-150 actually achieves 26 sustained then that kind of forces the small truck buyer to admit that he/she just prefers a small truck. Nothing wrong with small trucks as there is a market for them and I'm glad that the car builders that build them stayed the course. This is one of Ford's many dumb moves that will cost them.
I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.
Now, if the 2.7L 4x2 F-150 actually achieves 26 sustained then that kind of forces the small truck buyer to admit that he/she just prefers a small truck. Nothing wrong with small trucks as there is a market for them and I'm glad that the car builders that build them stayed the course. This is one of Ford's many dumb moves that will cost them.
#35
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I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.....
I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.....
The ironic thing is that my '07 Ranger (below) gets 25-26 mpg. It just amazes me why Ford didn't put any money into updating what was arguably a 10 year old design that had good bones and with an updated transmission and new exterior would be a winner at much less costs than completely designing a new engine and trying to get us to drink the Koolaid...
#36
The ironic thing is that my '07 Ranger (below) gets 25-26 mpg. It just amazes me why Ford didn't put any money into updating what was arguably a 10 year old design that had good bones and with an updated transmission and new exterior would be a winner at much less costs than completely designing a new engine and trying to get us to drink the Koolaid...
#37
This reminds me of the Bronco discussion. The market for small trucks has contracted severely over the last ten years, fueled in large part by manufacturers neglecting the segment. The Ranger was a dinosaur, and the current offerings from Toyota and Nissan are growing long in the tooth. GM is making a big gamble with the new Colorado.
If it's successful I think it's likely that we'll see a redesigned Ranger over here. I don't think it will be though, and if not Ford will have saved itself considerable expense at what could be a huge blunder. Why would I want a small truck when I can get a big one that gets 26 MPG for about the same cost? Some will, but I think most won't.
If it's successful I think it's likely that we'll see a redesigned Ranger over here. I don't think it will be though, and if not Ford will have saved itself considerable expense at what could be a huge blunder. Why would I want a small truck when I can get a big one that gets 26 MPG for about the same cost? Some will, but I think most won't.
#38
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall and find out first hand whether or not the 2.7L met Ford's expectations or fell short........and now they're stuck with it.
I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.
Now, if the 2.7L 4x2 F-150 actually achieves 26 sustained then that kind of forces the small truck buyer to admit that he/she just prefers a small truck. Nothing wrong with small trucks as there is a market for them and I'm glad that the car builders that build them stayed the course. This is one of Ford's many dumb moves that will cost them.
I have three co-workers whom all own four cylinder 4x2 Tacomas for the purpose of having a small truck that gets superior MPG's. They are all reporting between 24-26 and seem to be very proud of that. Not bad considering that their trucks are doing what they were intended to do.
Now, if the 2.7L 4x2 F-150 actually achieves 26 sustained then that kind of forces the small truck buyer to admit that he/she just prefers a small truck. Nothing wrong with small trucks as there is a market for them and I'm glad that the car builders that build them stayed the course. This is one of Ford's many dumb moves that will cost them.
#39
To the best of my knowledge, those 4x4 v-6 Rangers that got 16-18 mpg were 4.0L with automatic transmission. If one could have gotten a 3.0L 5spd. manual transmission Ranger, they would have delivered 20-25 mpg. And some would prefer a Ranger-size truck because of ease of parking and they'll fit in most any garage. None of the F150's I've owned would fit in a garage very well.
#40
That's the other thing that had me looking at the Canyon:
Crew Cab F150 with 5.5ft bed:
19ft 4" Long
6ft 5" Tall
6ft 8" Wide (no mirrors)
Canyon Crew Cab with 6.2ft bed:
18ft 8" Long
5ft 11" Tall
6' 2" Wide (no mirrors)
So I would end up with a bed that's almost a foot longer in a truck that's 8" shorter overall, 6" lower in height, and 6" narrower. It's actually closer to the size a half-ton used to be!!
The only downside is you can't put a 4x8' sheet flat between the wheel wells (44.5" vs 50" on the F150). However, on these short bed trucks that's not a big deal breaker to me, as you already kinda gave up on the ability to haul full size sheets when you went with the <8ft bed.
#41
#42
To the best of my knowledge, those 4x4 v-6 Rangers that got 16-18 mpg were 4.0L with automatic transmission. If one could have gotten a 3.0L 5spd. manual transmission Ranger, they would have delivered 20-25 mpg. And some would prefer a Ranger-size truck because of ease of parking and they'll fit in most any garage. None of the F150's I've owned would fit in a garage very well.
The 3.0 is bullet proof and will last a long time but that is a different story.
#43
#44
That's the other thing that had me looking at the Canyon:
Crew Cab F150 with 5.5ft bed:
19ft 4" Long
6ft 5" Tall
6ft 8" Wide (no mirrors)
Canyon Crew Cab with 6.2ft bed:
18ft 8" Long
5ft 11" Tall
6' 2" Wide (no mirrors)
So I would end up with a bed that's almost a foot longer in a truck that's 8" shorter overall, 6" lower in height, and 6" narrower. It's actually closer to the size a half-ton used to be!!
The only downside is you can't put a 4x8' sheet flat between the wheel wells (44.5" vs 50" on the F150). However, on these short bed trucks that's not a big deal breaker to me, as you already kinda gave up on the ability to haul full size sheets when you went with the <8ft bed.
Crew Cab F150 with 5.5ft bed:
19ft 4" Long
6ft 5" Tall
6ft 8" Wide (no mirrors)
Canyon Crew Cab with 6.2ft bed:
18ft 8" Long
5ft 11" Tall
6' 2" Wide (no mirrors)
So I would end up with a bed that's almost a foot longer in a truck that's 8" shorter overall, 6" lower in height, and 6" narrower. It's actually closer to the size a half-ton used to be!!
The only downside is you can't put a 4x8' sheet flat between the wheel wells (44.5" vs 50" on the F150). However, on these short bed trucks that's not a big deal breaker to me, as you already kinda gave up on the ability to haul full size sheets when you went with the <8ft bed.