The Canadian Vin Info Thread
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Lando25,
My '48-'51 Truck Chassis Parts book has the following information to breakdown your truck serial number information.
Engine: 0E-5983
"0" indicates year of manufacture of the engine.
"E" indicates 239 cu. in., 3 speed light truck transmission.
"5983" is the serial number of the engine.
Model: BD83 , Ford F-47 Pickup 114" wheelbase, 4700 lb GVW.
Trim: 16 (I don't have a breakdown of the interior trim)
Paint: 21 Vermillion Red. (most likely with Raven Black fenders and running boards.
Serial: BD83H50-20324
"BD83" Ford F-47 Pickup
"H" Assembly Branch - Home Office (Windsor Ontario Plant)
"20324" consecutive number at job assembly point. (serial number)
Regards,
Tien
My '48-'51 Truck Chassis Parts book has the following information to breakdown your truck serial number information.
Engine: 0E-5983
"0" indicates year of manufacture of the engine.
"E" indicates 239 cu. in., 3 speed light truck transmission.
"5983" is the serial number of the engine.
Model: BD83 , Ford F-47 Pickup 114" wheelbase, 4700 lb GVW.
Trim: 16 (I don't have a breakdown of the interior trim)
Paint: 21 Vermillion Red. (most likely with Raven Black fenders and running boards.
Serial: BD83H50-20324
"BD83" Ford F-47 Pickup
"H" Assembly Branch - Home Office (Windsor Ontario Plant)
"20324" consecutive number at job assembly point. (serial number)
Regards,
Tien
#66
#67
Don't suppose anyone has the info from the lost tables, either the original table themselves or info from the original catologue? I'm trying to translate my plate to figure out more about the truck's history and trim, and i can't find the canadian parts book anywhere. The paint code of "m-14285" doesn't appear anywhere in those tables that i (or the find function) can see.
#68
Don't suppose anyone has the info from the lost tables, either the original table themselves or info from the original catologue? I'm trying to translate my plate to figure out more about the truck's history and trim, and i can't find the canadian parts book anywhere. The paint code of "m-14285" doesn't appear anywhere in those tables that i (or the find function) can see.
The note also indicated these codes were used later but may be helpful for restorers, but obviously your 48 has the code. Hope it helps.
Vermillion M-1722
Raven Black M-1724
Palisade Green M-14341
Meadow Green M-14283
Sheridan Blue M-14285
Silvertone Gray M-14197
Birch Gray M-14286
Dover Gray M-14344
Sunland Beige M-14343
Primer M-4415
#69
Found a parts book for american '51 and on trucks last night and that colour code does line up.
I'm really curious about the trim and such as well. It's a weirdly optioned truck, with the biggest motor and the 4 speed, but no optional dual wipers and no heater, which would be a really weird choice for an alberta truck. There's very little else left on it to tell a story, and i'd quite like to know what it came with and exactly where it came from. Also weirdly, the truck has the '49 body colour wheels and cream coloured grille without stripes, but the badge says it's a '48. Could it have been a transitional model?
I'm really curious about the trim and such as well. It's a weirdly optioned truck, with the biggest motor and the 4 speed, but no optional dual wipers and no heater, which would be a really weird choice for an alberta truck. There's very little else left on it to tell a story, and i'd quite like to know what it came with and exactly where it came from. Also weirdly, the truck has the '49 body colour wheels and cream coloured grille without stripes, but the badge says it's a '48. Could it have been a transitional model?
#70
I don't have all the info - really sketchy on trim but it generally breaks down into color and material: vinyl or cloth
Engine number is '48 and 239 V8 (pretty standard in Canada) with the 4 spd trans.
Model number identifies as: DF83 = F68 with 122" wheelbase
Trim ??
Paint (interesting that this truck is Sheridan Blue, a color not used for trucks in the US until 1950)
Serial number:
DF = F68 1 ton
83 = Standard cab pickup
H = Home office assembly plant (Ontario) (long way from home too)
48 = 1948
32821 = actual running serial number of truck produced
This info is from a no longer available from a mercury truck web page. I photo'd the pages (4) and if you email me I can send them to you. mtflat at hotmail dot com
put FTE in the memo so I can pull it out of my discard file when it comes.
Engine number is '48 and 239 V8 (pretty standard in Canada) with the 4 spd trans.
Model number identifies as: DF83 = F68 with 122" wheelbase
Trim ??
Paint (interesting that this truck is Sheridan Blue, a color not used for trucks in the US until 1950)
Serial number:
DF = F68 1 ton
83 = Standard cab pickup
H = Home office assembly plant (Ontario) (long way from home too)
48 = 1948
32821 = actual running serial number of truck produced
This info is from a no longer available from a mercury truck web page. I photo'd the pages (4) and if you email me I can send them to you. mtflat at hotmail dot com
put FTE in the memo so I can pull it out of my discard file when it comes.
#71
#72
A few things to keep in mind:
1. Ford Canada did their own thing in several areas. Body colors likely were one of those. If it was special order it would list SS as the color.
2. Your grille was normally Tucson tan. Prototypes were body color. Early production was Tucson tan and later trucks were argent silver with red striping.
3. Ford Motor Company at the time had more exceptions than rules. Running changes were made when they became available, but at the same time they would continue to use up a surplus of stock before going with the upgraded parts. Even here in the states assembly plants did what they wanted to, independent of other plants.
4. Heaters and dual wipers were dealer options as were a host of other things. The factory production was pretty basic. Also farmers were very conservative and didn't opt for many frills.
None of the things you're thinking are irregular even surprise me - they're all within the 'normal' range.
That is what makes this all fun!
Tim
1. Ford Canada did their own thing in several areas. Body colors likely were one of those. If it was special order it would list SS as the color.
2. Your grille was normally Tucson tan. Prototypes were body color. Early production was Tucson tan and later trucks were argent silver with red striping.
3. Ford Motor Company at the time had more exceptions than rules. Running changes were made when they became available, but at the same time they would continue to use up a surplus of stock before going with the upgraded parts. Even here in the states assembly plants did what they wanted to, independent of other plants.
4. Heaters and dual wipers were dealer options as were a host of other things. The factory production was pretty basic. Also farmers were very conservative and didn't opt for many frills.
None of the things you're thinking are irregular even surprise me - they're all within the 'normal' range.
That is what makes this all fun!
Tim
#73
Hi Nathan, I was reading threads on M100s and was wondering if you had a source where I could get a VIN / Title for a 1956 M100 ? I am building a custom 56 big window with parts from all over, and already have the M100 emblems and tailgate. I'd really like to title and register it as an M100, if you have any suggestions.
Thanks in advance - Mike.
Thanks in advance - Mike.
#74
I recently acquired a 46/47 Canadian Ford truck from Alberta, Canada and I am trying to research/decode the data plate. I would like to figure out the correct year and any other info pertaining to the trim code etc. Data plate info is:
Engine 6E-13202
Trim MC18001-E
Paint M-1800-P
Serial 202H47-78195
i am aware that M-1800 is Yosemite green. Any idea what the P is for? I have found a few references to the MC-18001-E but nothing explained what the trim and options may have been or what, more inportantly the colours. Any ideas?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated!
Engine 6E-13202
Trim MC18001-E
Paint M-1800-P
Serial 202H47-78195
i am aware that M-1800 is Yosemite green. Any idea what the P is for? I have found a few references to the MC-18001-E but nothing explained what the trim and options may have been or what, more inportantly the colours. Any ideas?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated!
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