Trozei's '69 F100 Build Thread
#1607
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You will need a long extension cord to your battery charger amigo, if you want to fly around your place... haaa ha... anyway, Jeff is probably right on the 4 core needing more fan.. but, thinking of it now, and not back then, I always assumed that more was better... when in this case, that's not true, unless you make all the links in the chain the same strength.. the weak link breaks first... law of physics..
I will try a 2nd smaller, but high cfm fan mounted in front, to push some air through... maybe that will be easier than changing radiators again...??
Thanks guys.. live and learn.. sometimes..
Baja
I will try a 2nd smaller, but high cfm fan mounted in front, to push some air through... maybe that will be easier than changing radiators again...??
Thanks guys.. live and learn.. sometimes..
Baja
#1608
1: At idle some systems are not designed to be able to cool the engine well enough on hot days using the single fan behind the radiator, often a result of cost and/or weight savings.
2: The AC system needs airflow directly to the condenser to work efficiently.
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My situation exactly. I also have found that the 300 IL 6's have at least two different water pump impeller designs. One of stamped sheet metal, with large fins, and another with an impeller more like a commercial water pump. I have no idea which moves the most coolant, but I suspect that one is standard, and the other may be for stationary engines or heavy uses at lower speeds, like dump trucks or such..
I will try the 2nd fan pushing through the A/C condenser... and see if that helps...
Baja
I will try the 2nd fan pushing through the A/C condenser... and see if that helps...
Baja
#1610
So I'm on the phone with Lokar product reps asking them which throttle cable, kickdown cable, and mount bracket I want. I confirmed if it would fit a Holley.
"Yes, if it's a four barrel."
"You don't have anything that'll fit a two barrel?"
"No, sorry."
So I bought another carburetor... and quite a few dollars in other things to get this truck finished up how I want it. The thing is, I bought Lokar stuff three years ago when I pulled this thing apart, but they're polished stainless with braided lines. I want black braided and anodized black fittings now. The other thing is that this truck isn't even going to stay carbureted for that long.
Don't ever go down this path if you value your finances.
If you're like me and you know you're a stickler for perfection and a sucker for the "may-as-wells" that come along when you blast something apart, and someone ever tells you a restoration or even a paint job is affordable, they're probably wrong.
If you're the type of person who doesn't care about aesthetics, appreciate your "ability," because some of us can't do that. You win when it comes to looking at each other's bank accounts.
Final fit and finish is one of those things that takes way too long and costs too much but in the end it's worth it. Chasing those last details makes the difference. This took quite a few hours but I'm glad I decided to do it. I had a ready-to-install plug wire kit for this engine but the plug boots were grey and some plug boots were straight, some were bent, and it wasn't good enough for me, so I bought a universal unassembled kit and made it into a custom fit. This looks much neater, cleaner, and more professional. It'll also make plug wire tracing during maintenance easier, especially with the heat shrink numbers on each wire. I threw in a photo here of what the engine looked like four years ago for comparison.
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"Yes, if it's a four barrel."
"You don't have anything that'll fit a two barrel?"
"No, sorry."
So I bought another carburetor... and quite a few dollars in other things to get this truck finished up how I want it. The thing is, I bought Lokar stuff three years ago when I pulled this thing apart, but they're polished stainless with braided lines. I want black braided and anodized black fittings now. The other thing is that this truck isn't even going to stay carbureted for that long.
Don't ever go down this path if you value your finances.
If you're like me and you know you're a stickler for perfection and a sucker for the "may-as-wells" that come along when you blast something apart, and someone ever tells you a restoration or even a paint job is affordable, they're probably wrong.
If you're the type of person who doesn't care about aesthetics, appreciate your "ability," because some of us can't do that. You win when it comes to looking at each other's bank accounts.
Final fit and finish is one of those things that takes way too long and costs too much but in the end it's worth it. Chasing those last details makes the difference. This took quite a few hours but I'm glad I decided to do it. I had a ready-to-install plug wire kit for this engine but the plug boots were grey and some plug boots were straight, some were bent, and it wasn't good enough for me, so I bought a universal unassembled kit and made it into a custom fit. This looks much neater, cleaner, and more professional. It'll also make plug wire tracing during maintenance easier, especially with the heat shrink numbers on each wire. I threw in a photo here of what the engine looked like four years ago for comparison.
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#1611
Attention to detail. No kidding. Son, when you 1st popped up on the Kingdom I remember giving you a Big Time Compliment on who you are and what you can do. And I still don't have to point out even minor things to you. Good job. Right down to a quality oil filter to allow that motor to last a long time and curling #6 plug wire under the other two with a GAP.
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Detail, and attention to detail... Nuclear grade amigo. Being a heavy duty salt water fisherman, I have, at times, borrowed from the fishing industry, at least the stainless steel, black stainless steel, and 49 strand braided black SS wire in 600 lb test...
Since you will not keep the carb for long, you might look at adapting the SS braided wire from a fishing supply... I have several hundred feet here, but won't be headed North to bring you some, until maybe Oct.... I am sure some is available in your area though, should you decide to compromise, form to function...
Baja
Since you will not keep the carb for long, you might look at adapting the SS braided wire from a fishing supply... I have several hundred feet here, but won't be headed North to bring you some, until maybe Oct.... I am sure some is available in your area though, should you decide to compromise, form to function...
Baja
#1614
Attention to detail. No kidding. Son, when you 1st popped up on the Kingdom I remember giving you a Big Time Compliment on who you are and what you can do. And I still don't have to point out even minor things to you. Good job. Right down to a quality oil filter to allow that motor to last a long time and curling #6 plug wire under the other two with a GAP.
I suppose I never mentioned it too but I completely went through the wiring harness Tim sold me and I essentially rebuilt it to take out any twist or tangle in the wiring. It took a lot of hours but you can now trace each wire from end to end without any confusion. This will help a lot in the future.
Thanks. I'm quite happy with it. Hope I never have to do it again though!
Detail, and attention to detail... Nuclear grade amigo. Being a heavy duty salt water fisherman, I have, at times, borrowed from the fishing industry, at least the stainless steel, black stainless steel, and 49 strand braided black SS wire in 600 lb test...
Since you will not keep the carb for long, you might look at adapting the SS braided wire from a fishing supply... I have several hundred feet here, but won't be headed North to bring you some, until maybe Oct.... I am sure some is available in your area though, should you decide to compromise, form to function...
Baja
Since you will not keep the carb for long, you might look at adapting the SS braided wire from a fishing supply... I have several hundred feet here, but won't be headed North to bring you some, until maybe Oct.... I am sure some is available in your area though, should you decide to compromise, form to function...
Baja
#1617
#1618
This was absolutely a very rare find so I couldn't pass up on the opportunity to own it for myself and try it out. I will be completely rebuilding this entire setup to make it look like it's brand new as well as to colour coordinate with my engine because to me looks are equally as important as performance, which means this will take quite some time especially as I do live a busy lifestyle and this truck as well as many other things are occupying my finances. Don't expect finished results next week.
It is a Clifford manifold. As much as I don't like Clifford (I milled their name off my valve cover), it's not like there are any other options...
These are Weber DCOE 40s which I believe should be a good size for the street. The plan may change in time but I would like to drive the truck daily if possible. That's why I bought it and I must remind myself of that frequently. If I decide to be childish then we absolutely can discuss large cams and up-sizing the carburetors. Let's be honest, that does sound like lots of fun. The previous owner had this setup tuned for his engine by his friend who worked for Weber and he said it ran beautifully. His engine though, I believe, was otherwise stock which means the only similarity we have is compression ratios. My camshaft is bigger, my cylinder head flows better, and my redline is higher than his. I will have to tune again for my engine, but at least I know they're in the ballpark for my needs.
I will be dyno-tuning this truck as is for maximum performance and economy, and when I get around to swapping these carburetors on I will dyno tune again. This will show us if there is any benefit to them. Granted, the 4bbl carburetor is only a 390cfm, so I'm sure there will be some improvements.
#1619
I crossed the border today and picked up the package that I was excitedly waiting for.
This was absolutely a very rare find so I couldn't pass up on the opportunity to own it for myself and try it out. I will be completely rebuilding this entire setup to make it look like it's brand new as well as to colour coordinate with my engine because to me looks are equally as important as performance, which means this will take quite some time especially as I do live a busy lifestyle and this truck as well as many other things are occupying my finances. Don't expect finished results next week.
It is a Clifford manifold. As much as I don't like Clifford (I milled their name off my valve cover), it's not like there are any other options...
These are Weber DCOE 40s which I believe should be a good size for the street. The plan may change in time but I would like to drive the truck daily if possible. That's why I bought it and I must remind myself of that frequently. If I decide to be childish then we absolutely can discuss large cams and up-sizing the carburetors. Let's be honest, that does sound like lots of fun. The previous owner had this setup tuned for his engine by his friend who worked for Weber and he said it ran beautifully. His engine though, I believe, was otherwise stock which means the only similarity we have is compression ratios. My camshaft is bigger, my cylinder head flows better, and my redline is higher than his. I will have to tune again for my engine, but at least I know they're in the ballpark for my needs.
I will be dyno-tuning this truck as is for maximum performance and economy, and when I get around to swapping these carburetors on I will dyno tune again. This will show us if there is any benefit to them. Granted, the 4bbl carburetor is only a 390cfm, so I'm sure there will be some improvements.
This was absolutely a very rare find so I couldn't pass up on the opportunity to own it for myself and try it out. I will be completely rebuilding this entire setup to make it look like it's brand new as well as to colour coordinate with my engine because to me looks are equally as important as performance, which means this will take quite some time especially as I do live a busy lifestyle and this truck as well as many other things are occupying my finances. Don't expect finished results next week.
It is a Clifford manifold. As much as I don't like Clifford (I milled their name off my valve cover), it's not like there are any other options...
These are Weber DCOE 40s which I believe should be a good size for the street. The plan may change in time but I would like to drive the truck daily if possible. That's why I bought it and I must remind myself of that frequently. If I decide to be childish then we absolutely can discuss large cams and up-sizing the carburetors. Let's be honest, that does sound like lots of fun. The previous owner had this setup tuned for his engine by his friend who worked for Weber and he said it ran beautifully. His engine though, I believe, was otherwise stock which means the only similarity we have is compression ratios. My camshaft is bigger, my cylinder head flows better, and my redline is higher than his. I will have to tune again for my engine, but at least I know they're in the ballpark for my needs.
I will be dyno-tuning this truck as is for maximum performance and economy, and when I get around to swapping these carburetors on I will dyno tune again. This will show us if there is any benefit to them. Granted, the 4bbl carburetor is only a 390cfm, so I'm sure there will be some improvements.